From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 29 02:33:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA00598 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 02:33:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA00593 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 02:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt2-6.HiWAAY.net [208.147.148.6]) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA16630; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 04:33:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id EAA02216; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 04:33:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199709290933.EAA02216@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: erb@inss1.etec.uni-karlsruhe.de cc: questions@freebsd.org From: dkelly@hiwaay.net Subject: Re: Ham radio programs? In-reply-to: Message from Olaf Erb of "Mon, 29 Sep 1997 10:57:49 +0200." <199709290857.KAA11790@insl2.etec.uni-karlsruhe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 04:33:42 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Olaf Erb replies: > > In article <199709290148.UAA01072@nospam.hiwaay.net>, > wrote: > >Michael A. Endsley writes: > >FreeBSD's slattach won't attach to a pty, last time I tried it. Something > >to do with the pty not being as complete as a tty. Failed with in an > >ioctl for setting process group or some such. Linking TNOS's IP stack > >to FreeBSD's becomes more difficult than it should. I got a PPP link > >running once thru a pty. And didn't know how I did it afterwards to > >repeat. A pair of hardware serial ports with a null modem cable works. > > I solved the same problem in WAMPES using a tun device. Took me one hour > or so to get it up and running, much cleaner than this linuxish slip-over- > pty crap. The tun device is a great feature of *BSD. Only recently has discussion on the TNOS lists touched on running TNOS as someone other than root. :-( My copy of TNOS *never* ran as root. That's the good feature of SL/IP over pty. Considering the low low low bandwidth of amateur packet radio, its not even close to being a performance issue. The FreeBSD version of TNOS uses "install -c -g dialer -o tnos -m 2755" to install as user "tnos" setgid to "dialer" so it can uucp lock serial ports. > You may take a look at the WAMPES package, it doesn't have that much > features like TNOS but it's ok- it serves only as a ax.25/IP "router" for me > between the ax.25 packet radio network and FreeBSD's IP stack. Services > are all provided by FreeBSD itself. I played with WAMPES many years ago under Linux. Was the first AX.25 stack I got to run. For a few minutes I even thought its automatic generation of user accounts for new logins was cool. Am sure that can be disabled if one took the time to find it. I would be much more interested in a modular amateur packet radio approach. BBS, NNTP, HTTP, mail, TCP/IP, etc, all in one binary is way too much. Would rather see something like a "kissd" which could interface to KISS TNC's and spawn the appropriate child process on connect. 73, -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.