From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 22 08:14:50 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B542510810B2 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 08:14:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 203B789513 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 08:14:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.99.237]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue101 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0Lu5Go-1g0slY1l94-011VMd; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 10:09:30 +0200 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 10:09:30 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Paul Macdonald Cc: Paul Macdonald via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: stable vs releng Message-Id: <20180822100930.44c638f4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <010327df-876b-dc05-e9ed-130f3e8decb0@ifdnrg.com> References: <010327df-876b-dc05-e9ed-130f3e8decb0@ifdnrg.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:J+sPhJAknf9gantqCVMBLV1YX6dQ2487/Fnqn9Zn1RfdnzzUmV6 14IamPa+8DMVZX2wywXqBFN/qKY8yr7tJ3Tl3QfoMveaZdf6oS0LWS9vZVggTCHdC+eyrDZ IuzxPXwjMQ3bM598j0cv4iTkuBHq8yb6sasaLUW0oGtqdkh3SgT0Y9CpA+TiPo6ISGvjbeW 2zq9wJxkPma93/YJdWzVA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:K24e2banzNk=:+urUdFMA/cGvzdrBH4JLPi jwzhN6Nfap/sOPP4fQlxy2nfwNmSNNtwiw9+FxgFb4uswg1xe6YIdbuPEudzFb2YXuWcaxrE3 toUzvgE0Doi2hQXFRxu26NmaiNNgQcgiAgGFLWt6OjAIwLm2gFAu0Gl6dBi/Iri1/NyxzluN0 3xP0s/+EZhyeSxyTotNmrpwrS3t5L3gRpPzICPn3u3rdkrE/K7CZValFN8rPNqydtwKpSlYp6 RmjDvRcH148w0ytUI/qvRe+PzbPA/Rpzy1+9aRa+xIpipeZLDPgCurRMXIzDuU2cXakO1XAwh sGb7CJECSaHIrK71HO6LyD5ZBpkmU+w1D8vxyV8W3jz23/qpQuekd1FVAbXm0BddQDXeco40N ch4V2NbH+WSqPJF0Jr/a0l8AxEOtxzt9vJcuL8rVrGpvJAQJbT6PBzcrDmgAifl6yFRWFZO8J +DjFSgZSPIS9b1Jj+pwdV5gyDeyCTSDkMDMZmnntZKZEhmVr/tm8SZzob/OFRkXfx7KLc29+m ZI1znC8CNzIGzWWi9pZc6JDBPjnqc9WUVFWAWS/YQmk/Ol5m3e6jG+dUDiDx5GT38EhAQaZdE H1uskxqzNqt44Iztx9AkFsHnJdeM9SZY/KaKGQhLFhUNjH0CrgQ03rxcrPndQ2pvkSVMG/G71 w5PQMJXvuuKcFiCDoAhhGs0GV5yLK2SoJAFnqoyysX2RTxIJRImWcPwKkaGa3fBYYYo2CYVjZ op0Rnn3jkWYAID3g X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 08:14:50 -0000 On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 22:41:37 +0100, Paul Macdonald via freebsd-questions wr= ote: > Like many i suspect, i have a bunch of boxes on releng, as that used to=20 > be the long term support branch. >=20 > Thats all changed obv , and stable is now the long term support branch. That sounds wrong. > q1) Is it any easier now to change from a releng branch to stable Obtain the sources via SVN, then follow the instructions in the comment header of /usr/src/Makefile. A -STABLE version needs to be built from source. In order to update -RELEASE, you can use the binary method of freebbsd-update, resulting in -RELEASE-pX, where X is the number of the patchlevel. This is how you get your security updates on the long run. The security updates are "backported" (not the correct term here, I know) from -STABLE, which in turn is a point in time during development at -HEAD / -CURRENT. The word "stable" emphasizes that the ABI is _stable_ (so you won't have to re-install ports, as it often is required when you change releases, even though there are the "compat" packages you can use). More information here: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.h= tml https://www.freebsd.org/relnotes.html https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/current-vs-stable-vs-release.3716/ > q2)=A0 the offical freebsd download links all link to releng, where is=20 > stable for iso/img downloads? There are no such downloads, except maybe development snapshots of -STABLE and -CURRENT which are probably more interesting to developers and testers, not to users. That's the primary reason no installation media is provided - this is usually generated from -RELEASE. This is an example: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/arm64/11.2-STABLE Check the surrounding directories for more snapshots. :-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...