From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jan 31 11:44:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11505 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:44:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11498 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:44:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.56.224]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA3F29; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:44:17 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:53:02 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: The Hermit Hacker Subject: RE: From Slashdot... Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 31-Jan-99 The Hermit Hacker wrote: > What do we have to do to improve our imagine? Get the "big companies" > like Creative to recognize us and provide us with driver support? Or, is > this something that really doesn't concern us, as we are trying to fill a > totally different niche? Funny you start about it Marc... How much is Open Source worth to you? As far as I have been able to gather Creative is unleashing some sort of binary drivers. Not sourcecode. If ye want specs yer still tied to NDA's, at least that's what it used to be. I dunno if they revised this as well for their new tactics. If I may gather from my own experiences, I am a regular and since a short while operator of Undernet's #FreeBSD channel. The amount of new users coming to the channel has at least doubled, mayhaps trippled. I think we're on the right track. Personally I would reject stuff from commercial firms if the stuff they were to provide was in binary form only. That's not what the project is for in my eyes. And I think you are someone who has got to agree on that as well, being one of the headmen of PostGreSQL... --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven It's a Dance of Energy, asmodai(at)wxs.nl when the Mind goes Binary... Network/Security Specialist *BSD: Powered by Knowledge & Know-how To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message