From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 20:09:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52BA01065678 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 20:09:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4059D8FC0A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 20:09:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so8701rvf.43 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 13:09:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=qykZsgH/gQl7MqH4kwY7fjXwnUFqbF+Xf6Ly4cf2cFI=; b=J85/jLVcKP3Qewoh8U92Sy3vmiE4rguU0iMmbjXgJEkzI3J1HKiJoalyO0Aw0zUIV9BY8ivS54EuB2imms5wPrjHbz7MVjrwMZbQryHwUL8NBw4j4pC+Wl24BrDcU9TNPFvEXBDOQhI9/E7WaSuRzwxm3GidzIn6OvUxdLMUBvA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Av5Dt8oLYW0lfqU5ST7iVpnIQSOuF3REz1bBu0U9Sc+79rYDkZYpKiM8Osx1U0U1huKSGhKOAi2LGFciIuHiS0iwCyR19poVlbYTRjGmNJH7fJLgUKlkhawj3NfY+s3Ghndm1pIElPowuArzDS6D4VBJAlL+e299TjEAc6PLEPg= Received: by 10.141.43.5 with SMTP id v5mr3331775rvj.49.1212178165904; Fri, 30 May 2008 13:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.248.15 with HTTP; Fri, 30 May 2008 13:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54db43990805301309q6345aa6dy78546deda8327293@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 16:09:25 -0400 From: "Bob Johnson" To: DAve In-Reply-To: <48401F97.9010003@pixelhammer.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> <483FAD90.6010101@extracktor.com> <484013A7.6020507@mikestammer.com> <48401F97.9010003@pixelhammer.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 20:09:26 -0000 On 5/30/08, DAve wrote: > Eric Zimmerman wrote: >> Foo JH wrote: >>> I like Qmail. It's not overly difficult to configure, and it's >>> extensible. >>> >> >> and requires 400 patches to do basic things =( > > List them, not 100, not 399, all 400 please. > > Keep in mind that when your download x.x.x release of a software package > you are downloading a "patched" source code. Sendmail has been patched > many times, Postfix is patched, Exim is patched. qmail just requires you > apply your own patches. Patching is not a bad thing, shrinkwrap mail > admins applying patches that they do not understand is a bad thing. > >> >> heres some interesting reading about qmail... >> >> http://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/qmail-bugs.html > > That so much time and effort is spent telling everyone how bad qmail is > still amazes me. It is one of the best performing and most extensible > MTAs I have ever used. It is not however, suitable for those who choose > not to understand how mail works. Point and clickers should stay with > Postfix, also a very capable MTA. I agree. No one should use Qmail unless they have read and completely understand every email-related RFC and have at least two years of experience running a commercial mail server. Amateurs shouldn't even consider it. Please, use anything but Qmail. It sprays backscatter spam all over the internet. - Bob