From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 1 18:43:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C41316A402 for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 18:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE6043D48 for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 18:43:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k41IhAtO013990; Mon, 1 May 2006 20:43:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k41Ih9BU019843; Mon, 1 May 2006 20:43:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k41Ih9Vm019842; Mon, 1 May 2006 20:43:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb) Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 20:43:09 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Mike Meyer Message-ID: <20060501184309.GB19811@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <18e02bd30604301409g2691e0cbvce0bbb8e5c5e56b2@mail.gmail.com> <20060430211517.GA11971@freebie.xs4all.nl> <200604302035.50870.slackwarewolf@comcast.net> <86mze2vx38.fsf@xps.des.no> <319cceca0605010623k5bb62479r1ceec72e55b5eca9@mail.gmail.com> <20060501180745.GC19342@freebie.xs4all.nl> <17494.21387.484871.980369@bhuda.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <17494.21387.484871.980369@bhuda.mired.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Maslan , Allen , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= Subject: Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 18:43:15 -0000 On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:29:31PM -0400, Mike Meyer wrote.. > In <20060501180745.GC19342@freebie.xs4all.nl>, Wilko Bulte typed: > > On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 01:23:40PM +0000, Maslan wrote.. > > > On 5/1/06, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > > > >Allen writes: > > > >> If you watch Revolution OS, Linus points out that his main thing for > > > >> doing Linux was that he wanted something like he had used at the > > > >> university he was at and he says it was SunOS. Sun OS / Solaris, are > > > >> straight BSD. > > > > > > > >Wrong. Solaris is SysV with some BSD bits tacked on. > > > > > > > >DES > > > >-- > > > >Dag-Erling Smørgrav - des@des.no > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > > > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > > > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > That's right, but sunos (earlier than solaris) was based on bsd. > > > www : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunos > > > > Be specific: SunOS 3.x and 4.x are BSD. The later ones are called > > Solaris 1.x IIRC > > Solaris 2.x also calls itself SunOS, just take a close look at the boot > > messages. It is as DES already pointed out a SysV derivative > > SunOS 5.x was the OS. Solaris 2.x was the OS plus the windowing > system. So when you booted a system running Solaris 2.x, you were > greated with SunOS 5.x banenrs. Common usage was that SunOS 5 systems > were called "Solaris", and SunOS 4 systems were called SunOS, > regardless of how Sun labelled the distribution media. Well.. Sun at some point took 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 into the Solaris naming scheme. Just confusing to a lot of people. > > wikipedia stinks too often to be taken as gospel... > > The entry for Solaris largely agrees with my recollection of > events. It's been long enough that I'm a bit hazy on the details, but > there's nothing in it I know to be wrong. I meant wikipedia in general, not this one in particular. Its a bit like people claiming "Bill Gates invented the internet". Or Al Gore for that matter ;) -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org