From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 9 17:21:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7EC16A4E0; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 17:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948D443D49; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 17:21:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A5A290C98; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:21:17 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00850-04; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:21:17 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA8D290C20; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:21:16 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id E00605C5B9; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:21:17 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDEB4A8C7; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:21:17 -0300 (ADT) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:21:17 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-X-Sender: freebsd@ganymede.hub.org To: Howard Jones In-Reply-To: <44DA1502.2040803@thingy.com> Message-ID: <20060809142006.F7522@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060807003815.C7522@ganymede.hub.org> <20060808102819.GB64879@augusta.de> <20060808153921.V7522@ganymede.hub.org> <44D8EC98.8020801@utdallas.edu> <20060808201359.S7522@ganymede.hub.org> <44D91F02.90107@mawer.org> <20060808212719.L7522@ganymede.hub.org> <20060809072313.GA19441@sysadm.stc> <20060809105404.GC19441@sysadm.stc> <44DA0715.1020507@utdallas.edu> <20060809130634.S7522@ganymede.hub.org> <44DA0DDF.40300@thingy.com> <20060809134007.U7522@ganymede.hub.org> <44DA1502.2040803@thingy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:21:20 -0000 On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Howard Jones wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> Right, and the bad thing is if yu alias another IP on that device, the >> hash totally changes, so we see that one host now as being two different >> ones :) That's why we disqualified using ifconfig right at the >> beginning ... > > But didn't you say that you effectively wipe the database once a month, > (or expire entries over that age)? I can't find the post that mentioned > that now, naturally... :-) if you aren't using the 'key' as a database > key, then what do you care that it changes as long as it uniquely > identifies the system (which it definitely would)? > > I don't know how typical I am, but I don't really remember the last time > I added an IP alias on a running server, for our few dozen production > systems. I would imagine that those types of changes might well be lost > of systems coming and going. I add/remove IPs from our servers several times each week, as we add VPS and remove them, or move then between boxes ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664