From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 21:12:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F671065680; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:60a2::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61FA8FC18; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:8815:eaa9:15e8:6eb3]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 212B64AC32; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 01:12:50 +0400 (MSK) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 01:12:49 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <283532167.20111212011249@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: Andriy Gapon In-Reply-To: <4EE500A2.4050005@FreeBSD.org> References: <76373418.20111209141018@serebryakov.spb.ru> <1406787882.20111211132717@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4EE500A2.4050005@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Attilio Rao , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD/amd64 on machine without ACPI BIOS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:12:52 -0000 Hello, Andriy. You wrote 11 =E4=E5=EA=E0=E1=F0=FF 2011 =E3., 23:12:34: >>> Is it true? Is it possible to have FreeBSD/amd64 without ACPI? >> It seems, that "device mptable" in kernel config helps. >> Why is it not in GENERIC kernel? > Just a guess, maybe because GENERIC kernel is for "generic" hardware. Oh, yes, and "Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315U adapters" or "EISA AHA1742 family" is very generic in our days, and "NE[12]000, SMC Ultra, 3c503, DS8390 cards" newtwork cards too, to name some random picks from GENERIC. Generic hardware in our days are CPU, ACPI, APIC, keyboard/console, AHCI, USB, HDA audio and Realtek 1G NIC. Period. Even Intel NICs are not so generic (and even Intel itself solder Realtek on lot of their motherboards). Servers? Ok, Marvell and Intel NICs + bunch (say, 3-4) SATA/SAS controllers. Again, no all these wide-SCSI and 10Mbit NICs. Hey, we still have "cpu I486_CPU" in i386 config! How THIS could be generic in 2012!? --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov