From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Wed Nov 11 12:28:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D01AA2B70D for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crest@rlwinm.de) Received: from smtp.rlwinm.de (smtp.rlwinm.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:201:31ef::e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 530DE1F05 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crest@rlwinm.de) Received: from crest.local (unknown [87.253.189.132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.rlwinm.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4C016681C for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:28:24 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Sparc64 doesn't care about you, and you shouldn't care about Sparc64 To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org References: <563A5893.1030607@freebsd.org> <2AAC0EF3-528B-476F-BA9C-CDC3004465D0@bsdimp.com> <20151108155501.GA1901@alchemy.franken.de> <563F8385.3090603@freebsd.org> <56417100.5050600@Wilcox-Tech.com> <39947478-4710-47D8-BAB1-FC93979570B6@mail.turbofuzz.com> <20151111084432.GC67251@server.rulingia.com> From: Jan Bramkamp Message-ID: <56433467.1040000@rlwinm.de> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:28:23 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20151111084432.GC67251@server.rulingia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:28:26 -0000 On 11/11/15 09:44, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2015-Nov-10 22:55:38 -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: >> Again, what’s the long-term goal of supporting this architecture? > > The things that sparc64 give us that x86 doesn't are big-endian and > strict alignment. In theory, MIPS, PPC and ARM can give us both of > those but I'm non sure whether we actually have any big-endian > variants of them. > These days the cheapest new MIPS64 system you can get is a Ubiquiti EdgeRouter Lite with dual-core 500MHz Cavium Octeon 1+. I don't know if they support little-endian but the FreeBSD port to them uses big-endian. Since the u-boot bootloader isn't locked down you can just modify the startup script and boot from either TFTP or local USB storage.