From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Nov 23 02:23:35 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C77DB89DF; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 02:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (static-24-113-41-81.wavecable.com [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C160975F6A; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 02:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id vAN2NaMP099249; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:23:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) X-Mailer: Cypht MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: , In-Reply-To: <66D39828-ADBA-4973-BEB8-B2F6657E9996@FreeBSD.org> From: "Chris H" Reply-To: bsd-lists@BSDforge.com To: "Benno Rice" Subject: Re: The future of fortune(6) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:23:42 -0800 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 02:23:35 -0000 On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 08:29:46 -0800 "Benno Rice" said > Hello, all! >=20 > With the removal of the fortune datfiles I think it=E2=80=99s time to hav= e a > discussion about fortune(6)=2E >=20 > fortune now defaults to using a fortune file that no longer exists: >=20 > $ fortune > No fortunes found in > /usr/share/games/fortune:/usr/local/share/games/fortune=2E >=20 > fortune is still used in the default =2Elogin/=2Eprofile to show entries from= the > still existing freebsd-tips: >=20 > $ grep fortune /usr/share/skel/* > /usr/share/skel/dot=2Elogin:if ( -x /usr/bin/fortune ) /usr/bin/fortune > freebsd-tips > /usr/share/skel/dot=2Eprofile:if [ -x /usr/bin/fortune ] ; then > /usr/bin/fortune freebsd-tips ; fi > $ fortune freebsd-tips > If you need a reminder to leave your terminal, type "leave +hhmm" where > "hhmm" represents in how many hours and minutes you need to leave=2E > =09=09-- Dru >=20 > fortune also still has flags for showing offensive entries and the like=2E >=20 > I would like people=E2=80=99s opinion on which of the following two paths= we should > take: >=20 > 1) Complete removal of fortune and freebsd-tips, remove its usage from th= e > default =2Elogin/=2Eprofile files=2E >=20 > 2) Reworking fortune(6) to remove the offensive fortune flag and make > freebsd-tips the default, possibly by symlinking it as > /usr/share/games/fortune/fortunes=2E >=20 > Personally I lean towards the first option=2E HooWee! Here we go again=2E=2E=2E :) IMHO There is no reason to have removed the original fortune(6)=2E Yes=2E There *were* some (potentially) offensive fortunes=2E *But* you had to make a conscious decision to 1) turn that option on=2E 2) accepting the knowledge that they *may* be offensive=2E Why was there *ever* an issue?! I pick up a hammer, and place my hand on the kitchen counter=2E I then raise the hammer=2E Taking careful aim, to ensure that when I bring the hammer down swiftly=2E It will strike my hand=2E I've done so *knowing* the outcome=2E See any similarities? If it's to (hopefully) return, and given the proposed option(s)=2E I'd like to suggest that fortune be re-instated, using FreeBSD tips as the default=2E *But* with the option to re-instate the "traditional/classic" fort= une(s)=2E Doesn't that make for a win-win situation? :) Thanks for listening=2E :) --Chris >=20 > Thanks, > =09Benno=2E > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd=2Eorg mailing list > https://lists=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd=2Eorg= "