From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 28 13:32:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AF214B4380 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:32:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B60D68C432; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: matthew/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8CBC6579C; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.212.184.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 54F6818551; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:32:35 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/54F6818551; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Wireless interface To: Robert Huff Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190126213957.adfeb61c.freebsd@edvax.de> <5C4CE8B8.4030608@gmail.com> <20190127013705.3e8cd5f3.freebsd@edvax.de> <23630.64970.365320.231106@jerusalem.litteratus.org> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:31:59 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <23630.64970.365320.231106@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B60D68C432 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.97 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[FreeBSD.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.970,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:2610:1c1:1::/48, country:US]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:32:39 -0000 On 28/01/2019 13:04, Robert Huff wrote: > Matthew Seaman writes: > >> Actually, the project is struggling with a lack of information >> about its userbase. If you're trying to make decisions about the >> lifecycle of support for a particular device it certainly helps to >> have an idea about how many people are using it. > Are steps being taken to address this? If so, how do I make my > information available? This is something that's on core's agenda. Last I heard they were asking for people to post their dmesg at NYCBUG's site: https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi However this was in reference to a change which I think has already been completed. Also, being entirely voluntary as it is, this offers no guarantees about providing an unbiased sampling of the userbase nor does it give much of a handle on the absolute size of the userbase. Cheers, Matthew