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From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon)
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Subject: Re: upcoming bugathon this weekend
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On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 11:37:11AM -0800, Nate Lawson wrote:
> Ok by me.  The only problem I have is that a lot of people blame acpi 
> when it's really a driver problem.  The best acid test is to boot with 
> acpi disabled and show the feature works whereas with it enabled, it fails.

It would be great if you could write up some notes on "how to debug if
you think you are having an acpi problem".  If you can do that, I'll write
them up and either put them in the wiki, or the Developer's Handbook, as
you think appropriate.

I'm sure you'd rather have more than one person able to walk people
through debugging these problems :-)

mcl