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Date:      Fri, 08 Nov 2002 14:47:47 -0800
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu, eischen@pcnet1.pcnet.com, ataraxia@cox.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: [PATCH] note the __sF change in src/UPDATING
Message-ID:  <3DCC3F13.1CB12A9E@mindspring.com>
References:  <20021108.092732.124899267.imp@bsdimp.com> <Pine.GSO.4.10.10211081205020.27766-100000@pcnet1.pcnet.com> <20021108174915.GA71225@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20021108.143019.08321200.imp@bsdimp.com>

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"M. Warner Losh" wrote:
> My plan is as follows:
> 
>         1) Restore __sF to libc for 5.0.
>         2) Fix 4.x binaries so that __sF isn't referened in new
>            binaries.  This should have been done in Aug 2001, but
>            wasn't.
> 
> Depending on how things go, __sF will be removed in 5.1 or 5.2 after
> we have the transition period we had originally planned for 4.x, but
> implemented a year ago.


Before anyone's head explodes, this will *NOT* generate *new*
references to __sF.  Warner is *NOT* talking about changing
the definitions in stdio back to their old values.  *NEW* code
will get the *NEW* definitions, with certain specific exceptions.

The exceptions are for new code linked against old libraries,
or compiled with old tools, and linked agoinst those old tools'
libraries (e.g. Modula 3 and FORTRAN 95).

The issue this raises is that if/when the size of struct file
changes, the old programs will quit working, unless *ALL* of the
libraries which reference the obsoleted symbols varsions are
bumped between 4.x and 5.x, and *ALL* of them are made available
as part of the binary compatability package.

-- Terry

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