From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Sat Feb 10 04:03:04 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F9EF1B7F7; Sat, 10 Feb 2018 04:03:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@brawn.org) Received: from ahs1.r4l.com (ahs1.r4l.com [198.27.81.125]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DF006A736; Sat, 10 Feb 2018 04:03:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@brawn.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=brawn.org; s=default; h=References:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:Date:Subject:Mime-Version: Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=H+nDFPukB3u6KvqJmhLaOWWfrLf1vsmxhSlNE0/+uuA=; b=SFLkAyUpdVqAzBxT4R1pWdOCTe mwLb0X35mcN1M61lAOW1tfzV6Fqjd+eOkE18oJPTIVHKy6FX5osGirJx/rr8lDMxvjHBzjhBk2+6g E50pvZcQrmIWwi+/b+cTmNIz1SmAZslertTMfbMRY2W1x6Th87X2zBbXzog4oejZD/whuwudkksHa 4VMCLjJIM2qCf4lj/EUxaslkmF1PTfc1++ACtuvmkph504dSCU84a785VVMt3ZTRCegyKWIvC/EdH lOVrl39pjdtpt2O3Z8CcvHGnFcgigN7OUoAmorzcVfXzzWVcN46sb7MzCL9+jvES5ywyNwWKAkkCg aGdtM7uQ==; Received: from [136.62.171.86] (port=58988 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by ahs1.r4l.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ekMNL-002dwS-Pr; Fri, 09 Feb 2018 23:02:56 -0500 From: Jon Brawn Message-Id: <64E137CE-79AE-4EC2-85AC-D8069D7447A6@brawn.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_904B8EF2-81C4-4FF6-B484-3D2D66B35485"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.2 \(3445.5.20\)) Subject: Re: svn commit: r329064 - head/share/zoneinfo Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2018 22:02:53 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20180209190450.GA85711@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Warner Losh , svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers , Warner Losh , John Baldwin To: Alexey Dokuchaev References: <201802091550.w19FoXEb018181@repo.freebsd.org> <14002093.zLdzgIqnsv@ralph.baldwin.cx> <20180209190450.GA85711@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.5.20) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ahs1.r4l.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - brawn.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: ahs1.r4l.com: authenticated_id: jon@brawn.org X-Authenticated-Sender: ahs1.r4l.com: jon@brawn.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 04:03:04 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_904B8EF2-81C4-4FF6-B484-3D2D66B35485 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Feb 9, 2018, at 1:04 PM, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: >=20 > On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 11:50:35AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 10:49 AM, John Baldwin = wrote: >>> On Friday, February 09, 2018 03:50:33 PM Warner Losh wrote: >>>> New Revision: 329064 >>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/329064 >>>>=20 >>>> Log: >>>> We don't actually need env here, so drop it. All shells allow = setting >>>> of shell variables for the next command like this. >>>=20 >>> Eh: >>>=20 >>> % LC_ALL=3DC env >>> LC_ALL=3DC: Command not found. >>>=20 >>> csh and tcsh don't let you set environment variables as a prefix. >>>=20 >>> That said, if you try to use csh as the SHELL for make I bet many = things >>> would break. >>=20 >> Right, all shells supported as SHELL for make. csh isn't on the list = of >> supported shells. Your bet is right: a lot of things do break. >=20 > I don't really understand why we're discussing it: (t)csh, fish, = whatever > are for interactive use *only*. Scripts (and makefiles) should only = be > written for standard plain POSIX shell. >=20 > ./danfe Meanwhile, back in the real world, occasionally you are mandated to = write scripts in tcsh because of external requirements over which you = have no control. This seems to happen to me at work with regular = monotony. I do shower afterwards, of course. 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