From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 20 17:52:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from yoda.fdt.net (yoda.fdt.net [209.212.128.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C9737B860; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:52:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flaboy@gnv.fdt.net) Received: from localhost (flaboy@localhost) by yoda.fdt.net with ESMTP id UAA18340; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:51:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:51:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Barnhart X-Sender: flaboy@yoda.fdt.net To: XuYifeng Cc: Duncan de Verteuil , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Resume... In-Reply-To: <000701bfdb1a$3c1b54c0$1701a8c0@xu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I agree. I'm so sad to see however, replies to people that are so much less than professional (not that we have to necessarily be such all the time). I'm convinced that some of the problem is attitudes and the unwillingness to be open and help. People move and go to communities that they feel better being a part of. I can only wonder how many people we have lost here to linux that might have asked a question and ended up being treated like sh**. Hey, it won't happen but once to me, and I run an ISP with a wide variety of OS's. Nothin is very warm here, nor on the BSDI lists either. It's hurting the entire community, just sub to some of the linux lists and see for yourself how the help flows. It made it commercial, it started early and earned itself a rep for cooperation not spitefulness. JB On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, XuYifeng wrote: > don't try the change someboday's attitudes in bsd lists, it's tooo > difficult :( > also , I admit bsd has better technology, but Linux is more commercial, > BSD's very > important problem is there hasn't any enterprise level database system, it's > a pain. > > XuYifeng > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Barnhart" > To: "Duncan de Verteuil" > Cc: ; > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 8:37 AM > Subject: Re: Resume... > > > > And people wonder why linux is getting so much more...it might just be > > because of the *attitudes* on the *bsd lists... > > > > This is but one of so many I have saved showing nothing but contempt for > > people. Oh well, keep being sound blaster compatible...you know, having > > support for linux apps instead of attracting the companies to write a > > direct port for you. > > > > Pitiful. > > > > JB > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Duncan de Verteuil wrote: > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: H. Eckert > > > To: ; > > > Cc: > > > Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2000 9:16 PM > > > Subject: Re: Resume... > > > > > > > > > > Quoting Jason L. Schwab (jlschwab@uswest.net): > > > > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 > > > > > I am 17 years of age. > > > > > I consider my self a professional unix system administrator. > > > > > > > > Consider yourself lucky to be qualified to admin a microwave > > > > at a fastfood restaurant. This might even help you to get a > > > > chance to get a real qualification in the near future. > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > Ripley > > > > > > > > > > > Aren't YOU one arrogant piece of... *shakes head* > > > I am disgusted. > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > /---------------------------- 352-372-5100 -------------------------------\ | Joseph Barnhart | IRC | Gainesville, Tallahassee, | | FDT Network Administrator | Front Page | Ocala, Tampa & St. Pete. | | Florida Digital Turnpike | 56k Dialup | Pensacola, Jacksonville and | | http://www.fdt.net | ISDN T1 | Miami. Megapop and Ipass | | joseph.barnhart@fdt.net | Web Hosting | National access. | | | Unix Shells | | \---------------------------- 850-222-5200 -------------------------------/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message