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Date:      Fri, 8 Feb 2013 18:19:10 -0800 (PST)
From:      Paul Pathiakis <pathiaki2@yahoo.com>
To:        Jason Helfman <jgh@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org>, "ports@freebsd.org" <ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Zimbra Port
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Gentlemen:=0A=0AI created an account on the Zimbra site and sent mail to th=
e OSS Engineer, Solko, who has done most of the attempted post.=A0 I hope t=
o hear from him soon and get this kicked off.=0A=0AAt the present time, I'm=
 in the middle of performing the buildout of my infrastructure and products=
 for Atlantis Services, my company.=A0 I hope to do FreeBSD/PC-BSD proud. :=
-)=0A=0AI hope that "Ports" can pick up the mantle and run with this once I=
 get all the parties to the table.=0A=0A(Heck, I've done an OK job over the=
 years.... although OpenNMS (Thanks to getting Sevan to talk to ports) is n=
ot a complete port, the install is incredibly simple now...=A0 FrontAccount=
ing is getting many of my client QuickBooks users :-)=A0 Zimbra could be ye=
t another great addition to ports.=A0 As I get more feedback from my client=
s as to their needs, we'll round out even more useful ports for the small b=
usiness user. )=0A=0A(Sure my site isn't up, word of mouth is keeping me bu=
sy enough. :-) )=A0 =0A=0A=0AYou gotta love the look of bewilderment:=0A=0A=
Not Microsoft?=0AFree Office Suite?=A0 (OO, of course)=0ANo viruses?=0ANo S=
PAM?=0AFree software?=0ANo license fees?=0A=0AIt just keeps getting better.=
....=0A=0ASo, here's hoping we can get this to go quickly....=A0 =0A=0A=0AP=
.=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Jason Helfman <jgh@F=
reeBSD.org>=0ATo: Paul Pathiakis <pathiaki2@yahoo.com> =0ACc: Chris Rees <c=
rees@freebsd.org>; "ports@freebsd.org" <ports@freebsd.org> =0ASent: Friday,=
 February 8, 2013 5:31 PM=0ASubject: Re: Zimbra Port=0A =0A=0AOn Fri, Feb 8=
, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Paul Pathiakis <pathiaki2@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A=0AChris,=
=0A>=0A>I dug into it hard just a few days ago.=0A>=0A>Here's their issues:=
=0A>=0A>Like most people who are "solely" Linux (I'm not solely anything, 2=
5+ years in sysadmin, architecture, internet engineering, etc.), they don't=
 understand where /opt came from and what its true, original purpose was.=
=A0 (Additional OS enhancement software - directory was created circa 1990)=
.=A0 Most of the linux world believes that all additional software goes int=
o /opt.=0A>=0A>Happily, we have nullfs but more happily, ZFS.=0A>=0A>ZFS cr=
eating /opt/zimbra or creating a zpool and zfs'ing it, whatever, solves thi=
s issue.=A0 (In other words, poor use of auto-configuration tools and make =
variables that allow you to define a DESTDIR instead of hardcoding it.)=A0 =
Performing a softlink or other things causes the install to totally blow up=
.=0A>=0A>They guy who did the attempt at FreeBSD installation, did a decent=
 job at figuring this out.=A0 Everything, performing his procedure works as=
 almost as directed.=A0=0A>=0A>Things that are not to be liked about it:=0A=
>=0A>He builds specific packages for the install and bundles them up with t=
he install.=0A>He creates three packages for the install, the builddeps, ru=
ndeps and source.=0A>He then almost forces you to use these packages and hi=
s 'blessed ports packages" that he created to get it to install correctly i=
nstead of just using ports.=0A>=0A>After all this is installed with pkg_add=
 (I couldn't find any indication of pkgng work) The supporting software is =
installed and ready to go.=0A>=0A>Now, you get to the Zimbra source.=A0 (Al=
l 3 software bundles are tar'd and gzip'd)=A0 Once the ZCS is unpacked, you=
 run install.sh in its root directory and away it goes.=A0=0A>=0A>Once you =
get by some very strange errors (DNS not configured but it was, you have to=
 force it to be your domain, and some other strangeness), you work out thos=
e few issues and find no errors in the install log(s).=A0 Awesome....=0A>=
=0A>The last part of it is the thing starts up and integrates everything...=
.=A0 (This is something truly impressive:=A0 Apache, OpenSSL (certs get gen=
'd) , LDAP, MySqeel, Postfix, all the spam, virus, etc packages that go wit=
h a mail system, and on and on.....=A0 It then tells me everything is runni=
ng and I have to connect to https://<host>:7071..... it just hangs at that =
point....=A0 *shrug*=A0=0A>=0A>I've tried debugging it and I've tried over =
10 times of going over possible errors.=A0 Nothing.=A0 I tried contacting t=
he author but there seems to be an access issue.=0A>=0A>I'll try again soon=
, however, my company is being built right now....=A0 so I have VERY, VERY =
LIMITED time.=A0 (Yes, it's PC-BSD and FreeBSD based)=A0 I was hoping to ha=
ve a full collaboration suite for MS exchange and Outlook drop-in replaceme=
nt and this looked very promising.=A0 *sigh*=0A>=0A>P.=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=
=0A>________________________________=0A>=A0From: Chris Rees <crees@FreeBSD.=
org>=0A>To: Paul Pathiakis <pathiaki2@yahoo.com>=0A>Cc: "ports@freebsd.org"=
 <ports@freebsd.org>=0A>Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 2:23 PM=0A>Subject: =
Re: Zimbra Port=0A>=0A>=0A>On 29 January 2013 15:22, Paul Pathiakis <pathia=
ki2@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A>> Hi,=0A>>=0A>> It looks like they are soooo close=
 here.=A0 Can't ports pick this up and put it in the collection?=0A>>=0A>> =
http://wiki.zimbra.com/wiki/Zimbra_on_FreeBSD=0A>>=0A>>; If you look at the =
Zimbra site for threads there are quite few with people asking for Zimbra o=
n FreeBSD.=0A>=0A>At a glance it's a little less trivial than "picking it u=
p and putting=0A>it in the collection" :)=0A>=0A>It probably wouldn't be to=
o difficult, but someone would need to make=0A>a tarball of the sources ava=
ilable, which may have licensing issues...=0A>perhaps you could ask the aut=
hor how he made the packages?=0A>=0A>Chris=0A>=0A=0AI may able to take a lo=
ok at this. I was a Zimbra Administrator and have run into a number of issu=
es that I can solve, and maybe can work with you on the port.=0A=0Amail/zim=
bra or java/zimbra lol..... :)=0A=0A-jgh=0A=0A--=0AJason Helfman=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0 | FreeBSD Committer=0Ajgh@FreeBSD.org=A0=A0=A0=A0 |=A0http=
://people.freebsd.org/~jgh=A0 | The Power to Serve
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Subject: Re: Xorg totally unusable with KMS and new Xorg on Sandy Bridge
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>From Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>:

> After adding those, graphics/libdrm must be rebuilt, and
> x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel must have the KMS option enabled and be
> rebuilt.  If you just added WITH_NEW_XORG, there will be other xorg
> components that need to be updated.

O no, I'm getting rid of KMS and WITH_NEW_XORG because they produce an unusable Xorg installation that just crashes the system and requires Reset button.

I guess I need to use portmaster with --force-config on x11/xorg ?


Tom




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