From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 6 20:46:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA27829 for current-outgoing; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 20:46:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mira.net.au (eplet.mira.net.au [203.9.190.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA27824 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 20:46:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7173 invoked from network); 7 Jan 1997 04:45:55 -0000 Received: from melb.werple.net.au (203.9.190.18) by eplet.mira.net.au with SMTP; 7 Jan 1997 04:45:55 -0000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by melb.werple.net.au (8.7.6/8.7.3/2) with UUCP id PAA24594; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 15:39:27 +1100 (EST) Received: (from jb@localhost) by freebsd1.cimlogic.com.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA04955; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 15:40:28 +1100 (EST) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199701070440.PAA04955@freebsd1.cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: kernel w/o source? [MOD_DECL in lkm.h] To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 15:40:28 +1100 (EST) Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199701070300.UAA13646@phaeton.artisoft.com> from Terry Lambert at "Jan 6, 97 08:00:51 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert wrote: > > Of course, you are free to unbreak all the currently broken LKMs. :) > > Many people often ask for what they could do in the FreeBSD project -- > > well that's one that could be done: fix the LKM mechanism. > > Go to ELF, and I will fix the LKM mechanism. > > Go to ELF and support page control attributes and kernel paging, and > I will make some NT drivers load (and work) under FreeBSD. I'm running ELF on NetBSD/Alpha. Does that count? I guess not. > > > [blows dust of old Motorola system] Now, how do I boot this SysV thingy? > > > Sigh. It still works, damn! > > > > C'mon, it doesn't have LKMs either, only a bunch of .a/.o files. > > I have an LKM implementation for SVR3/SVR4. All it takes is a GCC > to generate PIC code for it, and you need to write a pseudodevice > (called /dev/lkm) to push the data into the kernel. USL claims > they own it because I changed a few lines of code on it in 1995 while > employed by Novell before Novell bought USL. My old SysV system is there strictly for support these days. Occasionally the hardware gets a run under VxWorks. The rest of the time it is turned off because it's too noisy. That's a feature these modern machines don't have: a power supply that indicates processor load. 8-) > Terry Lambert -- John Birrell CIMlogic Pty Ltd jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@netbsd.org 119 Cecil Street Ph +61 3 9690 6900 South Melbourne Vic 3205 Fax +61 3 9690 6650 Australia Mob +61 18 353 137