From owner-freebsd-chat  Thu Sep 10 06:07:38 1998
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
          by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20761
          for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 06:07:38 -0700 (PDT)
          (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG)
Received: from obie.softweyr.com ([204.68.178.33])
          by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA20753
          for <freebsd-chat@freebsd.org>; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 06:07:36 -0700 (PDT)
          (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com)
Received: from softweyr.com (wes@zaphod.softweyr.com [204.68.178.35])
	by obie.softweyr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA07524;
	Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:20:24 -0600 (MDT)
	(envelope-from wes@softweyr.com)
Message-ID: <35F7CF17.E0C82BCA@softweyr.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:07:35 -0600
From: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
Organization: Softweyr llc
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
CC: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: ed
References: <9698.905291210@time.cdrom.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Precedence: bulk
X-Loop: FreeBSD.org

Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> 
> > Ugh.  I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a favorite, but I still use
> > it for quick editing tasks where you need to change one string to
> > another, and in shell scripts.
> 
> Actually, I wasn't really joking, and though it's certainly true that
> I use ed pretty rarely (usually when I'm in a situation where my
> terminal settings or current emulator are too braindead for vi), I
> still really like it for its concise-yet-powerful approach to editing.
> 
> The problem most people have with ed(1) is that they don't have enough
> context to compare it to OTHER line editors, something which I
> unfortunately have in spades.

Yeah, me too.  Those who think ed is bad should try, for instance,
that horrid editor that came with CP/M, or "sos" on TOPS-10.  Or,
as an example of something other FreeBSD'ers MAY have seen, edlin.
Remember that barfluous little botch?
 
> Those who started with vi and then perhaps went on to emacs just have
> no perspective on what something like ed(1) represents. :-)

It was and is probably the best line editor ever written.

Driving home last night I recalled a recent use of ed, one that is too
common in my life.  About every 14 months lately I change jobs, usually
because my employer has been bought by someone and the whole management
structure and tempo changes.  Since I'm usually the "Alpha Geek" at
work, I usually get the ugly job of changing the company name in all
the comment headers, startup prompts, etc.

for file in `find . \( -name '*.[ch] -o -name Makefile \) -print`
do
ed $file <<EOF
1,$s/Good Time Engineering/Mega Baby Bell/g
w
q
EOF
echo $file edited.
done

You type this in, and depending on the size of your product(s), leave
for lunch or the night.  When you get back, all of your source files
have been updated (to the rear, it seems) and you can quietly find a
new job.  ;^)

(I used to work for Good Time Engineering, but left long before this 
merger.)

-- 
       "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

Wes Peters                                                 Softweyr LLC
http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr                      wes@softweyr.com

To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message