From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 8 12:09:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8539916A41C for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:09:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@hiwaay.net) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F271743D55 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:09:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@hiwaay.net) Received: (qmail 8957 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jun 2005 12:09:29 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO ?10.0.0.6?) (69.73.60.132) by smtp2.knology.net with SMTP; 8 Jun 2005 12:09:29 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) In-Reply-To: <42A6617A.5010908@sasktel.net> References: <42A4FD3F.70407@pacific.net.sg> <44y89mb1e0.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20050607175303.GA96525@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <42A62D8D.2020100@digitalarcadia.net> <30399E44-07C0-4F3B-9B1C-9F4B2E020E9C@HiWAAY.net> <42A6617A.5010908@sasktel.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1620633C-C528-4F8D-A35E-C13A13884D64@hiwaay.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Kelly Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:08:55 -0500 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Subject: Re: apple moving to x86 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:09:31 -0000 On Jun 7, 2005, at 10:09 PM, Stephen Hurd wrote: > Adaptec doesn't have the worlds best reputation for allowing people > to write drivers (or even for writing non-buggy firmware) but I > seem to recall that the Macs that ship with SCSI support use an > Adaptec chipset... oh, on looking, it appears that the IIci uses > an NCR SCSI chipset... specifically, the 5380 which was found on > many commodity PC SCSI cards too. I don't recall Apple ever using Adaptec chips. Their first ethernet card (NuBus) was done by 3-Com and so marked. Recently (several years ago) Apple offered a high end Atto SCSI card with new systems. Power Computing was the one who shipped possibly the world's first Adaptec 2930's, years before a much improved 2930 hit the boxed shelves. IIRC the first PowerPC Macs had two SCSI busses, one was NCR and the other was a combo AMD Lance ethernet and SCSI. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.