From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 18 18:35:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F961065686 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (bigknife-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:75::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521658FC1A for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8IIYY7N019403; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:34:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: "Baris Gerze" Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:36:38 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <28e7ba930809121638r3c0df525i113f4e353b9baebf@mail.gmail.com> <28e7ba930809171421t7397b85at739a5221a206da90@mail.gmail.com> <28e7ba930809171431rba5766bsa8cf9929349ce7cf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <28e7ba930809171431rba5766bsa8cf9929349ce7cf@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200809181036.38782.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [IPv6:::1]); Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:34:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.1/8281/Thu Sep 18 13:13:14 2008 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=4.2 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, DATE_IN_PAST_03_06,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pavilion BTX boot Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:35:00 -0000 On Wednesday 17 September 2008 05:31:26 pm Baris Gerze wrote: > Ok I understood and it worked now... when i boot i get boot prompt and go > take coffee > and waiting CD/DVD spin off.. and then type "boot" :) > > but it was fixed with 7.0 stable and moreover ubuntu linux says PCI bug and > overcome the > situation.. do you have plan to fix before 7.1 RELEASE? > > yes i know it is not a stopper bug but it was fixed before... This is _not_ a FreeBSD bug. I think you just got lucky with 7.0, maybe the BIOS bug only corrupts data read from certain sectors on the CD and the kernel for 7.0 was in a different location on the CD. This is a bug in your machine's _BIOS_. FreeBSD can _not_ fix your broken BIOS. Please understand, the reason you are having problems is that when the FreeBSD boot code asks the BIOS in your machine to read files off the CD, the BIOS is corrupting the files that are being read in some cases. If it corrupts the kernel, then of course you are going to run into issues. However, there is nothing FreeBSD can really do about this. We depend on a minimum subset of the BIOS functioning correctly, including reading files off of disk drives. > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:21 AM, Baris Gerze wrote: > > > nope i do not have corrupted install CD. coz i have downloaded from 2-3 > > different sites > > + md5 checksum.. all the same :( > > > > I am quite sure about the previous 7.0 stable it was fixed.. > > did you look the link i have sent ? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:22 PM, John Baldwin wrote: > > > >> On Wednesday 17 September 2008 03:53:01 pm Baris Gerze wrote: > >> > I am booting from FreeBSD 7.1 - Beta Install CD... > >> > how can I boot from GENERIC.. I do wanna fresh install from install boot > >> > cd... > >> > >> Erm, the install CD's are using GENERIC. I have no idea why it thinks > >> your > >> kernel doesn't include 'device pci'. I think you must have a corrupted CD > >> or > >> some such. > >> > >> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:18 PM, John Baldwin wrote: > >> > > >> > > On Tuesday 16 September 2008 04:54:08 pm Baris Gerze wrote: > >> > > > Image files attached. > >> > > > > >> > > > I dont know the exact fix date for FREEBSD 7.0 - Stable brunch for > >> the > >> > > boot > >> > > > problem > >> > > > > >> > > > What can cause the problem ? > >> > > > with / without acpi result is the same.. > >> > > > >> > > Err, not having 'device pci' in your kernel is not likely to give a > >> working > >> > > kernel in general. Are you booting from a 7.1 kernel you built or > >> from a > >> > > 7.1 > >> > > install CD? Can you try booting from GENERIC? > >> > > > >> > > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 6:24 PM, John Baldwin > >> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > On Monday 15 September 2008 08:45:55 pm Baris Gerze wrote: > >> > > > > > Two or three months ago I tried to boot from FBSD 7.0-STABLE > >> install > >> > > CD , > >> > > > > it > >> > > > > > boots > >> > > > > > but both 7.0-RELEASE and 7.1-BETA BTX loader gives me dump of > >> some > >> > > > > > characters > >> > > > > > such as > >> > > > > > 00 12 12 00 > >> > > > > > 12 12 00 00 etc.. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > I would need the screen dump (a photo can work) to debug this at > >> all. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > all tests were made with i386 version of fbsd. > >> > > > > > laptop is amd64 pavilion. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > when booting ubuntu linux it also says something like PCI BUG > >> found > >> > > in > >> > > > > the > >> > > > > > first screen but then boots normally > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > you could trace the error by comparing 7.0 stable with 7.1 ( > >> i386 ) > >> > > FBSD > >> > > > > > install iso images.. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > I don't have the hardware, so I can't debug this using that > >> method. > >> > > Can > >> > > > > you > >> > > > > narrow down approximately when 7.x broke? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > -- > >> > > > > John Baldwin > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > John Baldwin > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> John Baldwin > >> > > > > > -- John Baldwin