From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 01:29:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6FD16A4BF; Tue, 2 Sep 2003 01:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from knight.ixsystems.net (afg.ixsystems.net [206.40.55.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3404A43F3F; Tue, 2 Sep 2003 01:29:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matto@knight.ixsystems.net) Received: from knight.ixsystems.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by knight.ixsystems.net (8.12.9/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h828Ih1P007201; Tue, 2 Sep 2003 01:18:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matto@knight.ixsystems.net) Received: (from matto@localhost) by knight.ixsystems.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h828IhfQ007200; Tue, 2 Sep 2003 01:18:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matto) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 01:18:43 -0700 From: Matt Olander To: "Devon H. O'Dell" Message-ID: <20030902011843.B7129@knight.ixsystems.net> References: <20030902011548.I323@freebsdmall.com> <3F54535E.4070003@sitetronics.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3F54535E.4070003@sitetronics.com>; from dodell@sitetronics.com on Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 10:22:54AM +0200 cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux on TechTV September 2, 7pm EDT (Live) X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 08:29:09 -0000 On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 10:22:54AM +0200, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > I hope these boxes are preconfigured. See if you can fit ports in > anywhere... also see if you can fit in the FS structure. Those are two > things that go unnoticed and are two things that Linux has HUGE problems > with -- packages suck and there's really no standardized filesystem. > Installing and configuring packages is a nightmare. I'd suggest > installing something from ports (I dunno, blackbox or xmame or > something) and display how orderly it goes :). It can't hurt to show > that FBSD Is Consistent. yup, that's the plan. working on the box now. we had originally planned a server 'shootout' but I think both the linux guys and the TechTV producers wanted something more 'fun' > Unfortunately, we're going head to head with a kernel that's being used > in a lot of desktop-oriented things. There's no way FBSD will win a > desktop battle... especially not when the Linux guys break out VMware 4 > -- which is one of a few apps that FBSD can't emulate due to its kernel > hooks. yeah, true. hopefully, they didn't think of that ;) I tried working with the transgaming.com folks to get some windows games going, but they hadn't tested on FreeBSD for a few revs and it didn't fly... cheers, -matt