From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 25 20:29: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF2637B594 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 20:29:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA47726; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 21:29:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id VAA77635; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 21:28:49 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003260428.VAA77635@harmony.village.org> To: chad@DCFinc.com Subject: Re: FIXED --> Thanks! Re: ep0 eeprom failed to come ready... Cc: winter@jurai.net (Matthew N. Dodd), stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 25 Mar 2000 21:06:57 MST." <200003260406.VAA04621@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <200003260406.VAA04621@freeway.dcfinc.com> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 21:28:49 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200003260406.VAA04621@freeway.dcfinc.com> "Chad R. Larson" writes: : Every time Microsoft and the PC industry have tried to remove the : responsibility and control from the users (EISA--no jumpers, : Plug-n-Pray--no config program), they've generally made things worse. So you're saying that pci was a bad idea? : each time) to see what makes the NIC run again? How many of you : have purchased a shiny new NIC, and then had to go find a DOS : machine you could open up so you could find out how the card was : configured? None since I started buying pci nic cards :-). : Bah! This, to me, isn't progress. Yes. All those nasty problems with PCI cards sure isn't progress :-) Joking aside. To be honest, I've had fewer problems with the ISA Plug and Play cards as more and more of the drivers have been converted to grok PnP. I've had to properly configure the PnP BIOS settings when I've mixed non-PnP and PnP cards. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message