From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 5 11:42: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D991237B491 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:41:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from dbsys.etinc.com (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25030 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:46:44 GMT (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20010205144032.0215a9b0@mail.etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@mail.etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 14:51:14 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dennis Subject: Re: simple FreeBSD shaper questions :) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 01:11 PM 02/04/2001, Jeff Lynch wrote: >On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Andy Dills wrote: > > > better than ipfw. You should try both before comitting to the $600 he > > charges. The guy who runs Etinc is an asshole of legendary proportions, > > just search inet-access archives. > > > > Andy > >Just another data point, not to debunk Andy's opinion as we are all >entitled our own. But, I've never had any problems with Dennis. Great >products, we still have some in our network eventhough we've standardized >on Cisco (hardware costs less than experienced unix networking people, >IMHO). Dennis's stuff works and works well, but you have to be at a >certain level to be able to use them and receive the small amount of help >the experienced unix professional might need. Touchy warm, fuzzys are not >included in the Etinc purchase price. The people who tend to complain >loudest about Dennis are those who don't know how to hack the kernel or >properly set up a *nix-like box to route. Most people see a very low cost >alternative to build a very powerful router and get in over their heads >trying to make it work--it's more like miss-matched expectations than >a poor company or person at the helm. Andy is peeved that I wouldnt give him a license without payment because the "guy with the credit card was out playing golf" and they couldnt do without bandwidth shaping until he got back. So, if I won't break very clearly defined and understood rules for you, Im a "legendary asshole". So be it. Dont expect any "special" treatment and you'll be just fine. We're running a business here, not selling tee shirts from a shopping cart outside of Yankee Stadium. We have a free demo, try it. Listen to other people and you are getting a lot of gibberish out of context. Dennis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message