From nobody Thu Nov 3 09:53:08 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4N2zbD1nyzz4gY6W for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2022 09:53:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx1.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4N2zbC2dptz3CkR for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2022 09:53:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from fews2.riseup.net (fews2-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.84]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4N2zb93lt9zDrtb for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2022 09:53:09 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1667469189; bh=4uXrFCAdN1tNGY00//fwDDh6ECnjioWMYnuotNd/Puc=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=DQubTKJ7RmNec7fcj+0HDgJ8TEtx1tliHL567DrA4KAO7lpSO2kzmRPR8P/57TgcG DWqezJN/xwiDJkyheKByzNYQq6/zd1isj4fDIlng4xyQ6Hb8+Sph9cCKZRDtqDocZd DmPYbW5vNN80rB2VPalEMT6G2cr8D0nNcuELAKp8= X-Riseup-User-ID: E67235B0FFB8F9C233589770DED287C6D0A5003DB251E1C6953E7A7A6DFE9DDB Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews2.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4N2zb86W7vz1yRB for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2022 09:53:08 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1f0192e50e0bdb12e9667c6790769f3da0512e41.camel@riseup.net> Subject: Re: GNOME discussions From: Ralf Mardorf To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2022 10:53:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <15e8931aefdad251e9410889360925826b690d8a.camel@riseup.net> <3507971d-e9fc-0531-5a63-f22f13854476@freebsd.org> <74cd46ec-0149-486d-8df1-37859b3b5453@app.fastmail.com> <1dea781f-c56a-30ad-4763-80720aa67475@freebsd.org> <1b8a3afa-8a9f-ddad-fe7f-2a9ea2e432f6@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4N2zbC2dptz3CkR X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=DQubTKJ7; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.20 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hi, threading by mailing lists is often partially broken, but when using a decent MUA able to work around some issues, it's usually not a mess. An archive is just an archive, something a forum doesn't provide at all. Nothing is ever deleted from an archive, an archive doesn't change by moderation or by users who unsubsribe or whatsoever. A forum topic that isn't short easily becomes a mess, since it's either sorted by date with improper quoting or it provides a thread tree and some people reply within the correct tree or don't do it, resulting in the need to scroll up and down, to change pages forth and back. This is a real mess rendering forums useless for not necessarily all long discussions, but at least for a lot of long technical discussions. >From this point of view a forum cannot hold a candle to a mailing list. Regards, Ralf