From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 21 12:23:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E721016A4CE for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:23:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4B643D2D for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:23:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cyto@hellband.uk.to) Received: from hbdnet.uk.to ([82.35.76.94]) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:23:51 +0100 Received: from cyberstation (unknown [192.168.1.102]) by hbdnet.uk.to (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7617B78080B; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:23:54 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <001c01c5466c$e389fa50$6601a8c0@cyberstation> From: "cytomatrix" To: "Bart Silverstrim" , References: <76E0DAA32C39D711B6EC0002B364A6FA043DCAF4@amsal01exc01.americatel.com.sv> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:23:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2005 12:23:51.0243 (UTC) FILETIME=[F9DE39B0:01C5466C] cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:23:16 -0000 Hi, I think FreeBSD is the easiest decent operating system that i have ever used(i have used windows and linux distros too). To install a webserver under freebsd u dont have to run here and there, just go to ports and make install clean. You dont need a bunch of buttons for that. And freebsd's documentation is the best in the world. But u will only understand that if u have spend some time on reading freebsd handbook. I installed my webserver just using the handbook. For me freebsd is not hard to use. Good luck with freebsd and enjoy. :) Cheers, Cyto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bart Silverstrim" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:32 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux > > On Apr 20, 2005, at 3:55 PM, mmiranda@americatel.com.sv wrote: > >> >>> koen de wijs wrote: >>>> Hello folks, >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm new to unix. This year I tried FreeBSD. Some friend of >>> mine adviced >>>> FreeBSD. I think it works great. Only one thing that I >>> don't like is >>>> that you will need to know a lot to setup a lot of basic stuff. >> >> Yeah, this is unix my friend, that mean you have to get dirty "AND LEARN" >> a >> lot in the process. >> >>> There are a million sites discussing this, it's a flamebait, >>> and no one >>> wants to have that start up, so what you are doing is being (possible >>> innocently, but I wonder) very very impolite. >> >> I totally agree, stop whining and begin to read, read, read a lot, >> Do you want the easy way? go with linux, >> btw, i think windows xp is the rigth choice to you ;-) , you dont want to >> read and learn, dont even touch a unix terminal > > I'm afraid after playing with both FreeBSD and some different distros of > Linux, that "easy way" isn't necessarily Linux either. If anything it can > get to be much more complex if used on the desktop when it comes to > installing and updating software unless you only stick to that distro's > "way" of installing new software. And if you set it up to do more complex > tasks it still takes every bit as much understanding and altering of files > as FreeBSD does! :-) > > The only "easy way" to go with installing things on a computer would have > to be Windows (in the Intel world), since it is most often just a matter > of clickclickclickclick done. Windows will usually run for several weeks > while gathering glut and goo in the registry, in temporary directories, > screwing up various things in the background. It has to be easy to set up > because you end up having to reinstall when it "starts acting weird" :-) > > Really though; with Windows, it's a matter of "I want a web server...down > load "web server"...click click license yeah yeah click... oooh! Web > server! (don't know what it has open in the background or what scripts are > enabled or disabled or...but who cares...web server!) > > With a Unix system it's "I want a web server.......hmm...Apache > looks like it should work.......make install....edit > config file...what's this do?...oh..........neat!...edit > config...what's this > directive?.......okay...edit...save...apachectl start...web server > with X, Y, Z enabled, ,listening on port X, logging to Y, with virtual > host Z. WEB SERVER!" > >