From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 19 17:40:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F0E16A4CE for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:40:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5938043D49 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:40:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j3JHdvwd026701; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:39:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j3JHdvCc026700; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:39:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:39:57 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Dag-Erling =?unknown-8bit?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= Message-ID: <20050419173957.GC26152@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <200504131714.20356.jkim@niksun.com> <86fyxt1ovu.fsf@xps.des.no> <20050415005850.GB80903@dragon.NUXI.org> <2fd864e050414180911e4e5be@mail.gmail.com> <20050415211600.GA1473@dragon.NUXI.org> <1113603823.91832.7.camel@cream.xbsd.org> <2fd864e050415174048dc579d@mail.gmail.com> <346a802205041519071e4dc609@mail.gmail.com> <4260D654.3060301@mail.uni-mainz.de> <861x9bdlsz.fsf@xps.des.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <861x9bdlsz.fsf@xps.des.no> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i cc: "O. Hartmann" cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:40:20 -0000 On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 01:05:00PM +0200, Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrote: > "O. Hartmann" writes: > > My question si: how to force nVidia delivering the needed > > informations? It should be an aspect of customer demand. nVidia > > earns money with each sold nForce based motherboard and each GForce > > based graphics card and the better the support, the more they can > > sell. > > Why would they care about FreeBSD users? Unlike Linux, FreeBSD has > approximately zero brainshare in the computer press, and unlike > FreeBSD, Linux runs perfectly well on nForce chipsets. In fact, the > Asus SK8N which David loathes is "Linux-certified". You have NO idea how many hoops Linux jumps thru to run on the Asus SK8N. Let me repeat to you again -- _I_ was the first person to try to run 64-bit Linux on this motherboard. It didn't work. The Linux kernel grew many, many patches to deal with this motherboard and so you should be saying it is only "Linux-certified" for newer versions of Linux. However, I can run older FreeBSD versions on both AMD and VIA baesd motherboards (ie, FreeBSD versions released before the chipsets were produced). What does that tell you?? > If I didn't already know that FreeBSD is perfect and flawless and that > David is the Christ reborn, I'd be tempted to conclude that there is > something wrong with FreeBSD (or David), not with the nForce chipset. If I didn't already know DES was a huge ass.... -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)