From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 11 03:15:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9DA16A4CE for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 03:15:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from enterprise.another.com.au (dsl-210-15-193-5.TAS.netspace.net.au [210.15.193.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3293B43D1D for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 03:15:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from richard@another.com.au) Received: from shadow (CPE-144-137-30-210.vic.bigpond.net.au [144.137.30.210]) i1BBEiFv001363; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 22:14:53 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from richard@another.com.au) From: "richard" To: "'Jez Hancock'" Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 22:14:43 +1100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <20040211105304.GD68751@users.munk.nu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 'clamd / ClamAV version 0.65', clamav-milter version '0.60p' X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.2 required=4.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FVGT_TRIPWIRE_OC,FVGT_TRIPWIRE_PF,J_CHICKENPOX_21,TW_OC,TW_PF autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on mail.another.com.au cc: 'FreeBSD Questions List' Subject: RE: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:15:06 -0000 I moved all the mail files to /usr/mail and sym-linked it to /var/mail. = No problems with space. I've given up on the 5.2 upgrade, now I'm trying a 4.8 - 4.9 upgrade and = the first attempt failed with an odd message - "Couldn't even extract the = bin distribution, consider this upgrade a failure". Anyone else ever seen this? Cheers, Richard -----Original Message----- From: Jez Hancock [mailto:munk@munk.nu] On Behalf Of Jez Hancock Sent: Wednesday, 11 February 2004 9:53 PM To: richard Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 08:16:30AM +1100, richard wrote: > Migrating data will be problematic as there's lot of user cr*p and = custom > built web apps from generations of cowboy programmers, plus about 300 users > and a couple of dozen virtual domains. >=20 > As I'm really only after a stable implementation of a USB external = drive > (for backup) am I better off trying an upgrade from 4.8 to 4.9? Sounds like you're in a very similar situation to me :P In answer to the question, I would have thought so. If you're just interested in trying out 5.x for the heck of it (there isn't a specific reason for upgrading), you're probably better of installing it on a dev box perhaps - if that's possible. I'm amazed you have that many users but haven't managed to fill up /var yet with it being so small! > -----Original Message----- > From: lowell@be-well.no-ip.com [mailto:lowell@be-well.no-ip.com] On = Behalf > Of Lowell Gilbert > Sent: Wednesday, 11 February 2004 1:38 AM > To: Jez Hancock > Cc: Richard Beyer; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full >=20 > Jez Hancock writes: >=20 > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 08:10:05PM +1100, Richard Beyer wrote: > > > Thanks Jez, > > >=20 > > > Here's my df -h > > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > > > /dev/ad0s1a 126M 106M 9.4M 92% / > > > /dev/ad0s1f 252M 9.6M 222M 4% /tmp > > > /dev/ad0s1g 72G 2.7G 64G 4% /usr > > > /dev/ad0s1e 252M 51M 181M 22% /var > > > procfs 4.0K 4.0K 0B 100% /proc > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > It's an 80Gig HDD and I was using the sysinstall | upgrade | all | > include > > > ports > >=20 > > Seems odd that so much space is taken up by / - perhaps under 5.x = more > > space is required? I really do need to install 5.x at some point = ... :P >=20 > Yes, more space is used in the root filesystem for 5.x. [For=20 > several different reasons...] =20 >=20 > > Can you not do a backup of your data and start over with a fresh = install > > of 5.2? You have stacks of room on the hdd spare, so presumably = doing > > this wouldn't be too problematic. >=20 > That's definitely the way to go if possible; there are a number of > advantagious new features that will be difficult to take advantage=20 > of otherwise.=20 --=20 Jez Hancock - System Administrator / PHP Developer http://munk.nu/ http://jez.hancock-family.com/ - Another FreeBSD Diary http://ipfwstats.sf.net/ - ipfw peruser traffic logging