From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Wed Apr 18 15:00:25 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5419F92B9E for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2018 15:00:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: from puchar.net (puchar.net [194.1.144.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "puchar.net", Issuer "puchar.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C69183C64 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2018 15:00:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by puchar.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w3IEvPUm020428 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 18 Apr 2018 16:57:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from puchar-wojtek@puchar.net) Received: from localhost (puchar-wojtek@localhost) by puchar.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w3IEvJeZ020425; Wed, 18 Apr 2018 16:57:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from puchar-wojtek@puchar.net) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 16:57:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Maxim Konovalov cc: Igor Mozolevsky , FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: us report on russian hacking In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 15:00:25 -0000 >> >> In "popular" culture `hacker' === `cracker,' and not a hacker in its >> original/traditional sense as in a `skilled coder'. >> > Igor, I know that very well, thanks. > > Let me re-phrase the initial question: can we keep freebsd lists out > of government propaganda both US, Russia or whatever state -sponsored. > > I was under impression there was number of other tools like popural > social networks and sites invented for that. > true. and especially - everywhere i here that everything is russian guilt..... There must be public enemy no 1 ;)