From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 25 17:42:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52671065673 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:42:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD988FC19 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:42:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so5906868pyb.10 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:42:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=BzlhAfctCZckTzgSTn63EsL3sSHDC33nwFm81nWmcAk=; b=dG6Rn19ePF7kiYe3micQKXAhXf1WRYuBXD+ItnXa4TkviHHxR2s8ZkHz61lhBudu42Jm3/JvT0rJROp67XL2vb6lotB2R5LYC/bsz1qJchS5Ub1HvPKAueydtrlHd5+oCLpVCrDSQmHozBNx+JJiHxsaW+qz6xqtoEAjKQ58up8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=xcM6ilWr51ZGJdRFquM2rHUyU/PqukXcUbgzkHYttuisIu5uVPfCGSPELCiKeSGSJOdnf6IebW4lkorej4tRlU/HvY2nJi4RRAY3rxOvISYshc8P8+FI4Uom965jhER2nmy7CHBuwbjsyjxhpG/+ljbT78xtJwMSa/RBUZV8Vsg= Received: by 10.35.29.11 with SMTP id g11mr8096894pyj.27.1209145322572; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.3? ( [98.212.164.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f45sm2951033pyh.26.2008.04.25.10.41.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:42:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4810BCC4.9090401@otenet.gr> References: <4810BCC4.9090401@otenet.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <29f21956e9b63b09ccadfd0a452fbfeb@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joshua Isom Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:44:48 -0500 To: Manolis Kiagias X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: RFC: Article on implementing UFS journaling on desktop PCs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:42:04 -0000 On Apr 24, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > I have just completed an article (mostly how-to) for implementing UFS > journaling on a typical desktop PC: > > http://store.itsyourftp.com/~sonic2000gr/freebsd/gjournal-desktop/ > article.html > > It focuses on detailing an easy to follow, repeatable procedure, to > install FreeBSD on a typical PC and enable journaling on /usr and > possibly /var. > I am using this same procedure on my systems. > > I welcome all feedback, please send me any comments, suggestions and > corrections. > > Thanks, > Manolis > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > "A kernel panic will occur if the journal space is exhausted before it has a chance to be committed." So the intended behavior is for the kernel to give up(instead of keep trying and maintain reliability), and risk data loss? With a compliant hard drive that doesn't reorder writes, how is journaling better than soft updates?