From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Apr 8 18: 1:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97EAD37B41A for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 18:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g3911jru057753; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 10:31:46 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Subject: Re: mail black lists such as ORBS/ORBZ etc From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Benjamin Krueger Cc: Dan Langille , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020408165250.A1809@rain.macguire.net> References: <20020408234554.8D69F3F30@bast.unixathome.org> <20020408165250.A1809@rain.macguire.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 Date: 09 Apr 2002 10:31:44 +0930 Message-Id: <1018314106.10022.19.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5 required=5 X-Spam-Level: (-5) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.6 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 09:22, Benjamin Krueger wrote: > Unfortunately, I think the question is "what is the profit motivation?". > How do you make money on a spamlist? The only viable sell so far is to offer > it as a service. Doesn't help the small guys much. Mmm.. well I think we've found the problem... Unless you pay them, there is no money for them. Seems pretty obvious to me why there are less and less of them. You can defend lawsuits with $0 in the bank. There are other solutions besides blackhole lists though (SpamAssassin, Vipul's Razor, SpamCop, etc) Personally I use MIME Defang and Spam Assassin - works like a treat and I prevent windows users on my network from blowing their feet off too :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message