From owner-freebsd-openoffice@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 6 18:59:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: openoffice@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-openoffice@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0907316A41F for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 18:59:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mail17.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail17.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C567143D49 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 18:59:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: (qmail 7334 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2005 18:59:07 -0000 Received: from aldan.algebra.com (HELO vaio.virtual-estates.net) ([216.254.65.224]) (envelope-sender ) by mail17.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 6 Nov 2005 18:59:06 -0000 Received: from vaio.virtual-estates.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vaio.virtual-estates.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jA6IwVxA085827; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 13:58:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by vaio.virtual-estates.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id jA6IwGSJ085822; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 13:58:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) X-Authentication-Warning: vaio.virtual-estates.net: mi set sender to mi@aldan.algebra.com using -f From: "Mikhail T." To: Kris Kennaway Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 13:58:14 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200511051218.09945@Misha> <20051106180533.GA4574@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20051106180533.GA4574@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7whJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli"<=?koi8-u?q?kcG=5EEOVihy+z3/UR=7B6SCQ=0A?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-u" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200511061358.15971@Misha> Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, David O'Brien , openoffice@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Excessive dependancies for OpenOffice 2.0 port X-BeenThere: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting OpenOffice to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 18:59:09 -0000 = On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 12:18:09PM -0500, Mikhail T. wrote: = > I'm surprised, you are not objecting to the port's building of its OWN = > C and C++ compiler, as well as a bunch of "small" things like STLport, = > db4, expat (yes, it depends on it, but builds its own too!), sablotron, = > xmlsec, etc. etc. = I don't think you realise how much work it is to keep OO building even = with stock vendor sources, let alone with third party versions of = those packages. Actually, I do realise that, and, in my opinion, it is _harder_ to keep it building the current way. The third-party packages -- installed by other ports -- have their own maintainers, who watch out for build problems. Building a special version of C compiler is, AFAIK, unprecedented. The major problem, that the OOo maintainers have created for themselves is the rebuild of such things as mozilla (old, outdated version) and STLport4 (old, outdated version). Even when using ccache, these useless things take A LOT of time and diskspace. Plus, of course, a whole slew of small items (beginning with dmake). Maho -- the soul of our openoffice@ team -- is more of an OOo person, than FreeBSD person. And that's the root of it -- OOo's philosophy with respect to 3rd-party packages is that it MUST be buildable with the bundled versions and, OPTIONALLY, with the already installed ones. A FreeBSD port should be different... I'm trying to make an OOo port that would work on 64-bit arches (my main system is amd64). I'm long past the third-party packages problem -- it is all about 64-bit integers/pointers now... -mi