From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jul 7 9: 5:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA0937C16E for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:05:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08200; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:05:01 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000707095841.047c6ee0@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 10:04:50 -0600 To: "Jason C. Wells" , "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: No port of Opera? (Was: ((FreeBSD : Linux) :: (OS/2 : Windows))) Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000706193313.04a8ca40@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 01:12 AM 7/7/2000, Jason C. Wells wrote: >I have read this sort of stuff before. I just wanted to check in on >Jordan's behalf so that he knows there are FreeBSDites who are in favor of >the emulation. As I've said before, the emulation is a useful workaround for some of them. BUT THEY SHOULD NOT RELY ON IT IN THE LONG RUN! Right now, alas, the emulation is driving applications vendors away from creating native ports, which in turn is hurting the platform and increasing reliance upon the emulator. This is not a good thing. >Stallman, GPL, none of that matters to me as I consider >the usefulness of my OS of choice. It should matter to you, because it is the thing that most seriously threatens your ability to choose in the future. >I am sure I could write a great dissertation on the matter. One fact >remains, after three years of dire warning FreeBSD still seems to be doing >quite well. My -questions traffic is twice what it used to be. Alas, FreeBSD's market share relative to that of Linux appears to be going DOWN, not up. And the situation vis-a-vis native ports is terrible: after three years, FreeBSD has LOST, not gained, native ports. This is a serious threat to the health of the platform. I've done what I could to promote the BSDs, and in fact have made some serious progress in this area (though certain folks -- ahem! -- still seem reluctant to acknowedge it). But emulation is the greatest thorn in FreeBSD's side as a platform. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message