From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 11 21:31:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from aurora.sol.net (aurora.sol.net [206.55.65.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797DF37B993 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:31:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgreco@aurora.sol.net) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by aurora.sol.net (8.9.2/8.9.2/SNNS-1.02) id RAA35243; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:59:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <200004142259.RAA35243@aurora.sol.net> Subject: Re: Integrating QMAIL in the world In-Reply-To: <20000411222023.A1527@area51.v-wave.com> from Chris Wasser at "Apr 11, 2000 10:20:23 pm" To: cwasser@v-wave.com (Chris Wasser) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:59:51 -0500 (CDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 05:21:24PM -0500, Joe Greco wrote: > > While it is fantastic that FreeBSD comes out of the box so fully > > functional, it does make it a bit of a pain for those of us who intend > > to build servers - we have to disable the original before installing a > > new package. :-/ > > man mailwrapper No, that's not what I'm talking about. If you want to install the latest Sendmail, what do you do? (hint: it has nothing to do with mailwrapper) I'd like it to be something like: # pkg_delete sendmail; pkg_add sendmail Right now, to do a chrooted sendmail, not only do you have to remove the pre-existing sendmail: # chmod 000 /usr/sbin/sendmail /etc/sendmail.cf (etc etc) but you also have to do some things to install it chrooted someplace safe. Some of us also view the concept of having to actually change executables within the base system as something nearing criminal. I _really_ like the idea of mounting my systems RO and very secure. Changing modes on files doesn't bother me so much, but I'd prefer not to do it. The ideal situation would be where sendmail did not come installed by default. -- ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message