From owner-cvs-all Wed Mar 14 12:51:56 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2101637B71A; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:51:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f2EKpVm03014; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:51:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:51:15 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Paul Richards Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: proposals for fixing the PROBLEM at hand Message-ID: <20010314125115.B2341@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <20010312160321.B95497@mollari.cthul.hu> <200103130307.TAA41551@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <20010312193452.A2927@mollari.cthul.hu> <3AAE5A9A.341F634F@originative.co.uk> <20010314005648.I9369@klapaucius.zer0.org> <20010314011016.A28290@mollari.cthul.hu> <3AAF86A6.65492AEC@freebsd-services.co.uk> <3AAFB42F.95513604@gorean.org> <3AAFBED3.19D77C05@freebsd-services.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AAFBED3.19D77C05@freebsd-services.co.uk>; from paul@freebsd-services.co.uk on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:56:19PM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:56:19PM +0000, Paul Richards wrote: > Which is why I've always advocated that there be a team of people that > manages the -RELEASE branch and that it not be a free for all to > committers. I'm happy that this be made up largely of the security team, > they have the right sense of conservatism for this job but it does make > sense for their remit to extend to system stability as well as security Not if they have neither the time or interest to do so. Are you volunteering to be an _active_ part of the RELENG_4_3_0_RELEASE branch team? > since the two are closely related anyway and it would be unhelpful to At times yes. At times no. > not apply bugfixes that would fix probable data corruption or loss of > service because they fall outside of a too narrow definition of > security. What about that bug that makes CAM work at 1/2 speed and the TCP stack at 1/4 the performance. Would you consider these bugs that should be committed to this branch? They certainly have no affect on the security of the released system. > Perhaps what I consider to be a critical bug fix would always have > fallen into their definition of security anyway since I'm really only > talking about things that could cause data corruption or loss of > service Yes, you haven't spelled this out clearly before. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX Disclaimer: Not speaking for FreeBSD, just expressing my own opinion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message