From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 23 11:55:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E63F16A422 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:55:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk (asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E237B43D49 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:55:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [80.192.2.16] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FMOPB-0003fk-K1; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:55:05 +0000 Message-ID: <44228C98.8080006@dial.pipex.com> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:55:04 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20060305 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Camp References: <20060322161232.C8316@aslan.camp.com> In-Reply-To: <20060322161232.C8316@aslan.camp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: favorite ATA/SATA hard disk brand? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:55:09 -0000 Steve Camp wrote: >What brand / make / model ATA / SATA hard disks do you prefer? > >I am looking to purchase some SATA disks in the 160 - 300GB size. >I got a good deal (I think) on a Samsung OEM 250GB disk for $95 at my >local MicroCenter, but read on the web a few days later one gamer / >system builder / geeks-on-call type that he had *4* Samsung OEM disks >all die on him. So he swore off Samsung. > >So whom do you like / recommend? > > For any brand of disk you will always find *someone* who has had trouble. A single report by someone you don't know is statistically insignificant. 4 disks out of how many? How were they treated before they died? How quickly did they die? If you can find multiple reports like that, then maybe you're on to something. I have three Samsung disks (bargain bucket 160Gb SATA for Windows, and a 200Gb and 250Gb SATAII running at SATAI). I can say that they have been fine for me for 9 months (touch wood), but that's not worth much either :-) The sad fact is, that some proportion of hard disks pass quality control but still contrive to die. *Mostly*, a disk that going to die, does so quite quickly. Advice I have seen is that you burn the disk in (run benchmarks for 48 hours non-stop, say. Maybe even a week). And don't trust the disk for a month. If it's still going after that then it'll probably last for years as long as you don't let them overheat. If it dies, that's what the warranty is for! If there is a serious problem with a particular disk model, then google will find it for you. IBM discovered this to their cost when one of their Deskstar models turned out to be scrap disguised as a disk, and got a Class action lawsuit in return. Then they sold the Deskstar line to Hitachi :-) FWIW, my only Deskstar (pre-dating the dodgy model) is still going after 5+ years, and my only Hitachi (successor to Deskstar) is the same age as Samsungs, and fine too. If I were going to run RAID-1, I would pick two disks of the same size but different brands (Samsung and Hitachi 250Gb say). If you buy two disks of the same brand at the same time from the same supplier, it always seems to me that you increase the chance that a) they come from the same batch b) therefore if one has some production-line-related fault, the other is more likely to have the same fault. --Alex