From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 14 23:34:41 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4331EAAF02 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 23:34:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x32d.google.com (mail-wm1-x32d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38DC86BF21 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 23:34:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x32d.google.com with SMTP id p74so13336103wme.4 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 16:34:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XYoQnOejF5ORZ7u8ZB03bqB+0Tw0+pTLcQ6w/ft9TVI=; b=DtPndusS8mFVZetrsiZpwzzYkZM5V8WFoJ1/B9msjwqdv7UrbnlK8thpVm3iq8889y Omk8RgGiEGsakN2XtKKCYqNYXRsKBiCLKm6nelw12YIAQ21+dlmJ06JgBb8Qpjh7lFq9 hCaaW+6iXObRWO6I6ddRKzbJ8xTYG1HUf5ZrmukQ527mb2TWqvISZzmo9JtA39AyBFDo v2vzrgGBN1QpJjRoxF1tZ/BpW7B5ARfpnG0D+kq2tvQvtFT/vxNz0kty+wIO/7ZMp4AC V0AeHeZjGi7QnKNDopxPLxrwx4STc2kgx4pH/KLNv4QvgSz+hGNfcSfksq0mVszjgzQk VrxQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUBvFfJr0vs/keHGjRbpAp3HWnA5bl5jceXCnN4TlBmx7MJYbpl sQN3nB6nUnFRqP7W7Kuungmzs6peijI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqz4Y67nIJBelHobj4yaShDgeVX6Gk6lRXme1rZ+DvGVywcJ56PZOIn3cCMwEGYMB02z4/0sIg== X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c144:: with SMTP id z4mr21582702wmi.50.1563147277937; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 16:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([2.124.245.244]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b186sm12276048wmb.3.2019.07.14.16.34.36 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 14 Jul 2019 16:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 00:34:35 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to explore Android device files under FreeBSD ? Message-ID: <20190715003435.49ada1a3@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20190714194416.6948d301.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <13b9dc8e-f489-afaf-4b2c-e08277e2ecbd@gmail.com> <20190714194416.6948d301.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 38DC86BF21 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.74 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.81)[-0.806,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[244.245.124.2.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[d.2.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-2.93)[ip: (-9.24), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.90), asn: 15169(-2.44), country: US(-0.06)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 23:34:41 -0000 On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 19:44:16 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > Why doesn't it seem to occur to people that this sounds entirely > wrong? It's not that it is impossible, or doesn't work - but > shouldn't it be much easier to copy _your_ photos from _your_ phone > without requiring a 3rd party app, registering for a crappy cloud > service, or mess with "developer settings"? You shouldn't need to do that. "developer settings" is probably a misunderstanding. > In my opinion, it should be as easy as attaching the USB cable and > then immediately having access to a direct access mass storage, as > per the standard. There's no good reason to support that when MTP does it better and is widely supported. > Mount it, copy your files, unmount it, done. No > need for apps and cloud nonsense. Of course, using an MTP interface > is also easy, and with GUI tools like gtkam, access is super easy. > It should work that way by default, with cable. You can do that, but some people prefer to do it wirelessly. Most Android file managers support sftp (as well as ftp and ftps), but I've never got any of them to work with FreeBSD. I get sshd[77936]: error: PAM: Authentication error for from 192.168.1.65 It's strange because FileZilla works from Windows, and I can get ssh terminal access from Android and Windows. Username and password are pure ASCII. > Why do manufacturers think it's okay to make things needlessly > complicated? In my experience they haven't.