From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 08:33:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF40816A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:33:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791E743D54 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:33:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) i9R8XKq83201; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:33:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:33:20 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1a5.29af5401.2eafe426@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:33:24 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of TM4525@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:32 AM > To: micheal@tsgincorporated.com > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > I said it takes a higher > talent level to generally administer a un*x box than a windows > box. I don't > think that just because you can think of something thats not easy to do > in windows makes any point at all. The fact that a un*x guy had > to be called in to solve the problem says alot about the type of > talent that > is required to do most things that windows techs do. Do you know how many new customers the ISP I work at has signed up over the years who have had preexisting Exchange servers that were open relays? ALL of them who had exchange servers were open! Of course, we liked this, because several times the new customers came to us bitching about our competitors who had "the slowest Internet connection in the world" Needless to say, scanning for an open relays on IP addresses we assign to a new customer is SOP for us - we nip this in the bud right away. And to top it off, once fixed, most of them still don't even make the connection that their former ISP's internet connection wasn't the problem, it was the hundred thousand spams a day they were sending out that was making the connection slow. So much for "most windows techs" You may not, but I would consider that PROPERLY setting up a mailserver is something that 'most windows techs' should be required to do who choose to go buy exchange or whatever mailserver, and set it up. Ted