From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 29 22:44:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B88D7106568D for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=546a4110a=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893678FC1F for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:44:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,648,1249275600"; d="scan'208";a="19342819" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2009 17:16:05 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 54E794EF5C for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:16:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:16:05 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Effing HAL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:44:43 -0000 --On Thursday, October 29, 2009 16:55:58 -0500 Freminlins wrote: > > I know this isn't specifically a FreeBSD problem, HAL being needed by X. But > the flipping installer should enable it when I selected X flipping User from > the install options. > > My little upgrade has now turned from a bit of fun into a saga that I don't > want to go through again. > > I had to get this off my chest. It was, as they say, doing my head in. > Far be it from me to pile on when you're already so frustrated, but I run into these sorts of problems myself from time to time. It's usually because I didn't bother to read /usr/ports/UPDATING first, which in this case might have warned you. 20090123: AFFECTS: users of x11-servers/xorg-server AUTHOR: rnoland@FreeBSD.org If you are using an older xorg.conf several config lines are no longer needed and will generate warnings when X is started. RgbPath will cause X to fail to start, remove it from your config. Server 1.5.3 also really wants to configure its input devices via hald. This is causing some issues with moused and /dev/sysmouse. There are couple of options for how to deal with it: 1. Add Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" to your ServerLayout section. This will cause X to use the configured kbd, mouse, and vmmouse sections from your xorg.conf 2. Don't use moused. If you want it to work with addon USB mice set this in rc.conf: moused_enable="NO" moused_nondefault_enable="NO" I'm working on fixing hald or the mouse driver or both. In this modern world where everyone wants things to "just work", xorg now does not require any conf file at all, and can happily configure on the fly (in most cases) without any input at all. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson