From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Oct 21 15:36:59 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA15484 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 15:36:59 -0700 Received: from etinc.com (etinc-gw.new-york.net [165.254.13.209]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA15479 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 15:36:56 -0700 Received: from trumpet.etnet.com (trumpet.etnet.com [129.45.17.35]) by etinc.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA05887; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 18:51:52 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 18:51:52 -0400 Message-Id: <199510212251.SAA05887@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Joe Greco From: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Subject: Re: ISDN: Sync vs Async. Was: Bragging rights.. Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk J. Greco writes... >> Second of all, >> you are simply lucky >> that the average joe doesn't know that you're cheating them by giving them 30% >> less bandwidth then they think. > >Cheating them? > Yes. Because they think their getting 128k (or 115k) and they're only getting 90K. Now if you TELL them that they're only getting 90K and thats what they're paying for, then thats OK...the way it should be. But if they think they're getting 115 or 128k for what their paying, then its being misrepresented. If I were your competitor my Newspaper adds would read (get full 128k with ET (Joe only gives you 90K)) I'd have so many more customers that I could eat the cost of the sync cards and laugh my way to the bank. >Buddy, in this business, people PAY for bandwidth. An ISP could really care >less about the technology used to connect a customer's site - it only >affects recurring monthly costs and startup costs, which are passed off to >the customer anyways. What you're REALLY paying the ISP for is bandwidth! >And if you drop in a technology that squeezes more data over the line, the >ISP needs to take this into account in their overall strategy. A T1 can be >split into over 30 64K async channels before reaching bandwidth overcommit, >whereas it can only be split into 24 sync channels! That is a respectable >impact on operations. Precisely. Charge for the bandwidth. You can charge MORE for sync, because you get more. I thought that the idea of being in business was to make money, one by having value-added services, each of which I make a small margin, and the other to get more customers by having something to offer that my competitor doesn't have. I'm getting the feeling that all of your customers must be residential, in which case you may not have an opportunity. db ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25