From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Nov 1 15: 8:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE6837B405; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:08:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-141.wobline.de [212.68.69.149]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id fA1N82N30111; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 00:08:02 +0100 Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fA1NAN724491; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 00:10:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by jodie.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fA1N7mI54169; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 00:08:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 00:07:48 +0100 (CET) From: Nils Holland To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG, Subject: Re: NatWest? no thanks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011101235550.R54141-100000@jodie.ncptiddische.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 1 Nov 2001, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > So put it into words. Who should it be for? Geniuses who think like > computers and those who like to spend days configuring (and learning > about) things which M$ and Apple users can configure in a few minutes or > seconds (and often needn't bother to learn about at all)? Why shouldn't > it be for "the rest of us", who would like to learn and do other things? It should be for users who would like to learn. As I have said, FreeBSD is a really flexible operating system which virtually has no limits when it comes to do things. Windows is limited only so far as the icons take you. The difference is this: Microsoft shoves everything up the users a**, trying to make their software (supposedly) as easy as possible to use. However, it's still true that if you build a fool-proof system, only fools will want to use it. The challenge we are probably facing is *not* creating animated paper clips that seem to assume that all users are stupid. The challenge we are facing is creating something that is very flexible and free to be used by anyone who wants to use it. FreeBSD can be very easy to use even for beginners when you install X and KDE / Gnome, but users will just have to accept that they will have to do at least a bit of learning if they want to get their hooks on advanced features. That's just the way it is. Mass aceptance can be achieved in two ways: Either copy what the mass uses today and try to make them use your copy (seems that Microsoft likes that method), or make the masses aware what we have to offer. The second is the better method, IMHO. In my local area, I have introduced quite a few people who were disappointed with their (Windows) system to FreeBSD. What seemed hard to understand for them at first quickly became something they love. Indeed, we *have* to offer something that is significantly different (and better) than Windows, because if we would simply produce a copy of Windows - well, then why should people want to use our software anyway? Greetings Nils Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message