From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 12:18:13 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A36112327C for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:18:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9077981774 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:18:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Long Term support versions? Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 05:18:10 -0700 References: <20181113111556.f5870a43fbb1fe38db2a9df2@sohara.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20181113111556.f5870a43fbb1fe38db2a9df2@sohara.org> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9077981774 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.03 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.73)[-0.727,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.88)[-0.875,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.08)[asn: 209(-0.28), country: US(-0.09)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail.covisp.net]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.11)[0.114,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:18:13 -0000 On 13 Nov 2018, at 04:15, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 03:50:16 -0700 "@lbutlr" = wrote: >> And 11,2 is the only current version I see >> , but it is = marked >> to be EOLed at 11.3 +3month so where is a stable release that will = have a >> longer support window? >=20 > There isn't one, at least not until 11. whatever = may > be (I'd guess 3 or 4 but that's just my guess), that will remain = supported > until September 2021 which may be long enough for 12. to = arrive. I'd > like to think that, ultimately, tracking n. will become a = viable > strategy. IIRC, this has not been the case in the past. Certainly all support for = 10.x expired long before 11.2-RELEASE and we're quite a long way from = 11-FINAL. I don't think it was true of v4-9 either, but my memory on = that is not necessarily reliable. I ran v3.2-RELEASE for a long time, = but almost certainly far beyond its support window (I updated to 4.5 and = then 4.11 which I kept for years). Having a predefined end-date for support on 11.x is odd when there's no = final version. It seems that 11-FINAL should be supported for a period = of time based on either when 11-FINALE comes out or until 12-FINAL plus = a year or something. I mean, it's great that people are bing encouraged to update, but it's = at the cost of stability. My impression of the Linux world is that LTS windows are increasing = while FreeBSD is not. (Just an impression, I'm not using Linux, but I am = pretty sure a friend is using Mint with a 5 year LTS version). --=20 AUDITORS OF REALITY. THEY THINK OF LIFE AS A STAIN ON THE UNIVERSE. A PESTILENCE. MESSY. GETTING IN THE WAY. 'In the way of what?' THE EFFICIENT RUNNING OF THE UNIVERSE.