From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 21:10:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7426224B for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 21:10:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nschwqsrv03p.mx.bigpond.com (nschwqsrv03p.mx.bigpond.com [61.9.189.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D93A2A8E for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 21:10:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nschwcmgw05p ([61.9.190.165]) by nschwmtas04p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20140605205136.YMNM8665.nschwmtas04p.mx.bigpond.com@nschwcmgw05p>; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 20:51:36 +0000 Received: from hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au ([121.210.107.100]) by nschwcmgw05p with BigPond Outbound id Akrb1o00U29zwdD01krb1d; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 20:51:36 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=XNWyuHdE c=1 sm=1 a=SEJ2iDwVkb98DYvesvueMw==:17 a=JipEcVzqA9wA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=GHIR_BbyAAAA:8 a=8SwlMddbW9KqS_ixkwMA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=SEJ2iDwVkb98DYvesvueMw==:117 Received: from [10.0.5.3] (ewsw01.hs [10.0.5.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au (8.14.5/8.13.6) with ESMTP id s55Kp12s011012 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 6 Jun 2014 06:51:02 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dewayne.geraghty@heuristicsystems.com.au) Message-ID: <5390D834.3090906@heuristicsystems.com.au> Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2014 06:51:00 +1000 From: Dewayne Geraghty User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl , FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Who was the mental genius References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 21:10:35 -0000 On 6/06/2014 6:09 AM, Paul Schmehl wrote: > That decided it was a good idea to completely break ports to force > people to upgrade? You couldn't come up with a warning system instead > of outright breaking ports? The idiots are apparently running the > asylum. {{sigh}} > Are you referring to the /usr/ports/UIDs going away? I experienced a ports build failure attributable to that. Fortunately the person responsible redressed within 62 minutes. But it does raise the spectre of change control over components that are effectively live. It would be nice if /usr/ports/Mk experienced a change control regime that the base operating system uses - beta testing, release testing, deployment; and the files within /usr/ports should probably fall into that category, not the directory tree which port maintainers and commiters change to keep time variable applications up-to-date. Regards, Dewayne.