From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 23 04:23:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529FB37B404 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 04:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from energyhq.homeip.net (213-97-200-73.uc.nombres.ttd.es [213.97.200.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD3243FB1 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 04:23:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flynn@energyhq.homeip.net) Received: from isengard.energyhq.tk (christine.energyhq.tk [192.168.100.1]) by energyhq.homeip.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A21542E54B; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:23:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:23:28 +0200 From: Miguel Mendez To: Jalle Message-Id: <20030423132328.7e7e7f3d.flynn@energyhq.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030423122449.0244a058@pop3.hbg.bonet.se> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030423122449.0244a058@pop3.hbg.bonet.se> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.11claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) X-Face: 1j}k*2E>Y\+C~E|/wehi[:dCM,{N7/uE3o# P,{t7gA/qnovFDDuyQV.1hdT7&#d)q"xY33}{_GS>kk'S{O]nE$A`T|\4&p\&mQyexOLb8}FO List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 11:23:20 -0000 --=.64VPjXFUBVAL8. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:04:08 +0200 Jalle wrote: Howdy, > First of all, I just want to say that this mail is not meant to offend > anyone, and that it is a technical oriented mail, only with a tint of > "computer theology". I don't wish to start another one of those "holy > wars"-threads (FreeBSD vs Linux vs Windows kinda), I just want to > sort some stuff out. Well, you're message sounds like a blatant troll, but I'll answer it anyway :) > Now, everyone says that FreeBSD is supposed to be so fast and > reliable. Reliable, I fully agree! But fast? No, it's actually much > slower on my machine than any Windows distro ever was! Sure, only You're comparing apples and oranges here. > running in text mode is fast as hell, but no good for everyday use. > I've tried several WMs and Desktop Suites, like Enlightenment (e16 and > e17), Blackbox, Gnome2, KDE3 etc. They're great n' all, but as soon as > I switch to graphical UI everything slows down to a snail's pace! Even > a simple terminal is slow. Have you tried other lighter DE/WMs? XFCE and Icewm come to mind. KDE3 and Gnome2 and not exactly speed demons. > I've played around with Linux a couple of times, and with several > flavors (Mandrake, Debian, RedHat, Gentoo), and they where all MUCH > faster using a graphical interface than FreeBSD! > I have a Pentium III 450 MHz with 320 MB RAM, a SoundBlaster AWE 64 > Gold and a Matrox G400 MAX video card. I know, this is not > top-of-the-line hardware, but that doesn't mean that it should run > three or four (or more) times faster under Linux, right? Your ask for technical answers, but you didn't provide anything to backup your claims. You don't mention if you're running a Linux kernel with low-latency patches, which make desktop experience feel faster. I have a really really hard time believing there's a 4x difference in performance, specially considering that X is the same on both systems. Maybe your system is poorly configured. Care to try x11perf on both systems and paste the results? > yeah, BTW, is there really NO WAY of getting simultaneous sounds in > FreeBSD?!? I think that's kinda crappy. I mean MS did it, why can't > we? Take your time to google around, you can do it. > Finally the QUESTION: Why is my FreeBSD box so slow? I figure, if > FreeBSD in general was so slow, then noone would really use it. Are > there any "standard tricks" in the book that speeds up a slow X server > or WM, or just FreeBSD in general? The only thing I can say is: Where are your patches? Cheers, -- Miguel Mendez - flynn@energyhq.homeip.net GPG Public Key :: http://energyhq.homeip.net/files/pubkey.txt EnergyHQ :: http://www.energyhq.tk Tired of Spam? -> http://www.trustic.com --=.64VPjXFUBVAL8. Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD4DBQE+pneznLctrNyFFPERAkK1AKC2BH01xLmZmeI15ufKEVXqvEmCVgCY0xs9 Sb32y3OMavs7127xjE2bsw== =xrJ6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=.64VPjXFUBVAL8.--