From owner-freebsd-security Sat Dec 28 18:18:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A4037B401; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:18:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C5A43EA9; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:18:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from htabak@quadtelecom.com) Received: from quadtelecom.com ([12.91.170.229]) by mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with ESMTP id <20021229021849.LWXV20003.mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net@quadtelecom.com>; Sun, 29 Dec 2002 02:18:49 +0000 Message-ID: <3E0E4C39.2080603@quadtelecom.com> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 20:13:29 -0500 From: Harry Tabak Organization: Quad Telecom, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brett Glass Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter. References: <3E0DC89D.3010203@quadtelecom.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20021228134454.0283b180@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brett Glass wrote: > At 09:16 AM 12/28/2002, Harry Tabak wrote: > > >>I can't really stop the Spambouncer people from shouting "fire" from their own website -- freedom of speech and all that. But should FreeBSD act as an amplifier. > > > I personally believe that spam is a serious security issue (see > my paper at http://www.brettglass.com/spam/). However, be warned > that this list's Supreme Moderator may declare your posting to > be "off-topic," because it doesn't relate directly to intrusions > upon FreeBSD itself. He may also blast you for cross-posting > and/or for starting too long or interesting a discussion. :-S > Actually I have been privately chided. > That said, I can offer you some assistance here. Catherine Hampton's > SpamBouncer relies on Procmail, whose filtering recipes are easily > "tunable." It shouldn't be hard to change the recipes, and you can > then encourage the port maintainer to add your changes. Unfortunately, > if you want to get the master SpamBouncer recipe file changed, you will > have to contact Catherine. My wife knows her personally, so if you > cannot get through to her by other means I may be able to reach her > for you. > I've been in contact with the port maintainer. His position: 1) This problem is out of scope for him, 2) He is away on holiday and can't easily access the FreeBSD cluster, 3) Other pressures will keep him from this problem for several weeks. He advised me to contact me Miss Hampton. I can't fault him. Unfortunately, I have not gotten a response from Miss Hampton via the contact address on her web site . I'd apprecite it if you could contact her. I've had so much bad luck getting my mail out -- my mail may be pidgeon holed in her spam basket. > In the meantime, you may want to use a mail relay (not a fully open one, > of course) to get around the block. All you need is one machine on a > different subnet that will relay your outbound mail. Actually, that wouldn't work for my fixed address DSL server. I'd have to dial out from my laptop. > > --Brett Glass > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message