From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 19:16:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDF016A4CE; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 19:16:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 294F443D41; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 19:16:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from runaround.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA20965; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 20:16:08 -0700 (MST) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20040105201330.04837720@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 20:16:08 -0700 To: "Munden, Randall J" , , From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <79B4EAB03B5E4649A740A8C1452F606435AF1A@y6001a.umb.corp.umb .com> References: <79B4EAB03B5E4649A740A8C1452F606435AF1A@y6001a.umb.corp.umb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 05:23:55 -0800 cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Where is FreeBSD going? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 03:16:21 -0000 At 04:00 PM 1/5/2004, Munden, Randall J wrote: >I think this is what is on my mind these days. I'm preparing to load >up some machines for production soon (I've already put it off for too >long waiting for 5-STABLE) and I don't like what I'm seeing -- with >both the mud slinging here and the performance in the lab (mostly >anecdotal). I don't think that *this* conversation is mud slinging. What's happening on Slashdot, on the other hand, is. >> >> FreeBSD also keeps falling farther and farther behind Linux >> in the area of advocacy (and, hence, corporate adoption). >> Again, this is a governance >> issue. Many of the developers actually have an antipathy >> toward advocacy, >> since they dislike answering newbie FAQs and don't want too >> many people to adopt the OS for fear that it'll overcrowd >> their "sandbox." So, some of the criticism is actually valid. > >I noticed it too but I just chalked it up to being crazy busy >and not paying much attention. Nope, it's not because you're too busy. It's true. FreeBSD is getting fewer mentions in the mainstream press, and fewer commercial apps, lately. Linux is mentioned as if it was the ONLY alternative to Windows. Work is needed to raise FreeBSD's profile. --Brett