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Date:      Tue, 29 Mar 2016 04:04:01 +0200
From:      Bernd Walter <ticso@cicely7.cicely.de>
To:        Nikolai Lifanov <lifanov@mail.lifanov.com>
Cc:        =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_P=E9rez?= <fbl@aoek.com>, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Official images without noatime
Message-ID:  <20160329020400.GD68225@cicely7.cicely.de>
In-Reply-To: <56F97BEC.9020006@mail.lifanov.com>
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On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 02:46:04PM -0400, Nikolai Lifanov wrote:
> On 03/28/16 14:43, José Pérez wrote:
> > Hello Nokolai,
> > 
> > El 2016-03-28 19:39, Nikolai Lifanov escribió:
> >> A simple case is during install /usr/bin/cmp is ran to compare two
> >> files, atime for /usr/bin/cmp is updated during a crash, and
> >> /usr/bin/cmp is gone on next boot. I then have to copy it out of
> >> /usr/obj and into place and run installworld again. It's the handful of
> >> utilities actually *used* by installworld that do this and mounting root
> >> with noatime stops this from happening.
> > 
> > I suspect you have a problem somewhere else, maybe a faulty flash?
> > 
> > Can you reproduce with another hardware? Can you help us reproduce it?
> > What do you mean "atime is updated during a crash"??
> > 
> 
> I can reproduce this with my RPI-B (and a different SD card).
> Roughly this:
> 1) mount / with atime
> 2) make -j4 installworld
> 3) <pull power>

This is saying that it is damged by smashing it with a hammer.

> You can do step #2 over ssh and tee it somewhere so that you can
> be sure that utilities gone are the ones used, not the ones installed.

That doesn't mean the filesystem(s) and card internal buffers are synced.

-- 
B.Walter <bernd@bwct.de> http://www.bwct.de
Modbus/TCP Ethernet I/O Baugruppen, ARM basierte FreeBSD Rechner uvm.



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