From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 14:17: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D80C37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:16:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKMGop93306; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:16:50 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <011201c17211$0d9b0c00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Ken Bolingbroke" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:16:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ken writes: > Face it, countless people use KDE. You're whining > about all these bugs, how it's not stable, etc. > Yet, all these other people, myself included, > are just using it. So you couldn't get it to > work... Hardware fault? Driver bugs? User > error? Take your pick. Okay, what did I do wrong? > Gee, thanks for calling me a liar. I haven't done that. > And you wonder why people aren't falling over > themselves to help you out of their own goodwill. Some of them are more worried about trying to defend their religion with personal attacks. > Take the current pain-in-the-rear application > I'm dealing with: Altiris LabExpert. It hangs > regularly, for which I fault Altiris, not Microsoft, > of course, but the big hassle is that W2K provides > me no way to completely kill it--even shutting down > the process from the Task Manager doesn't free > up the network port it listens on, so it's > necessary to reboot the server to restart the > application. Does the product run with system privileges, or did it require changes to system files to install? > Oh? And pray tell, what's your average uptime > on your NT system? I've seen them run for several years at a time. On my own systems, they usually ran for a few weeks at a time before I had occasion to shut off the machine. One of the servers in my office ran continously for a year or two, as I recall. I had to boot it when some disks went bad, as I recall. I usually booted servers periodically to change configurations or reinstall things, as only one of the systems was a production server. The ones that ran for years were in the computer center. > Those of us that aren't married to Microsoft > can use whatever _works_. As long as it doesn't come from Microsoft? There's no reasoning with religion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message