From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 27 14:21:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18218 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:21:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kstreet.interlog.com (kstreet.interlog.com [198.53.146.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18159 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:20:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kws@kstreet.interlog.com) Received: (from kws@localhost) by kstreet.interlog.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) id RAA02034; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:20:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kws) From: Kevin Street MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:20:02 -0400 (EDT) To: Terry Lambert Cc: street@iname.com (Kevin Street), freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Softupdates panics In-Reply-To: <199809271957.MAA27397@usr05.primenet.com> References: <199809271957.MAA27397@usr05.primenet.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13838.43349.110576.318091@kstreet.interlog.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Terry Lambert writes: >Do *NOT* use "noatime" in combination with soft updates! > >The dependencies for "noatime" are not switchable, and by enabling >it, you are breaking the dependency graph into seperate pieces! > >The bug here is that it didn't ignore your request for "noatime". > >Julian, you want to fix ffs_mount in /sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c? Well, this certainly started an interesting series on noatime and SU. If I could just review the score so far, we have: 1 for "It's a Bad Thing" later retracted 2 for "I've never heard this and I do it, you must be thinking of async" 1 for "It's superstition, noatime and SU are fine" 2 for "It likely triggers an access change that exposes a SU bug" 1 for "It breaks your dependency graph into pieces" (perhaps I should count this as 2 for "Bad Thing") I think we need a decision from the referee. -- Kevin Street street@iName.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message