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Date:      Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:20:02 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Kevin Street <street@iname.com>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
Cc:        street@iname.com (Kevin Street), freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Softupdates panics
Message-ID:  <13838.43349.110576.318091@kstreet.interlog.com>
In-Reply-To: <199809271957.MAA27397@usr05.primenet.com>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.02A.9809260144460.9118-100000@kstreet.interlog.com> <199809271957.MAA27397@usr05.primenet.com>

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Terry Lambert writes:

>Do *NOT* use "noatime" in combination with soft updates!
>
>The dependencies for "noatime" are not switchable, and by enabling
>it, you are breaking the dependency graph into seperate pieces!
>
>The bug here is that it didn't ignore your request for "noatime".
>
>Julian, you want to fix ffs_mount in /sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c?

Well, this certainly started an interesting series on noatime and SU.
If I could just review the score so far, we have:

  1 for "It's a Bad Thing" later retracted
  2 for "I've never heard this and I do it, you must be thinking of async"
  1 for "It's superstition, noatime and SU are fine"
  2 for "It likely triggers an access change that exposes a SU bug"
  1 for "It breaks your dependency graph into pieces"  
	(perhaps I should count this as 2 for "Bad Thing")

I think we need a decision from the referee.  

-- 
Kevin Street
street@iName.com

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