From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 16 05:38:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444DA106566B for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 05:38:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091938FC0A for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 05:38:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q5G5cYOe048751; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:38:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FDC1BDA.4080806@dreamchaser.org> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:38:34 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120609 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Mueller References: <17.97.18914.61FFADF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: <17.97.18914.61FFADF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:38:35 -0600 (MDT) Cc: feenberg@nber.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB device activity when not mounted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 05:38:37 -0000 On 06/15/12 03:23, Thomas Mueller wrote: >> I can understand why I would see activity on a USB device when it's first plugged in. But why do I see continued activity (i.e. the light blinks on a usb disk or memory stick)? When I umount one of these, they keep being beat up on and it makes me nervous... At what point is it sync'd and safe to unplug? I assume when the umount returns, but what's going on after that? > > I had that problem/quirk with a SanDisk Cruzer 8 GB USB stick. Heh. My 4 gig one does it too. However, so does my seagate usb hard drive, so it's not specific to one mfg. On 06/14/12 07:49, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > Is it possible that there is volitile memory buffering in the stick that may not have been written to flash when umount thinks it is complete, and the flashing light is an indication that power is still required to complete the write to non-volitile memory? I'm pretty sure that's not it. My devices (memstick and usb disk) will blink happily for hours. Well, minutes, anyway. I haven't got the patience to wait it out beyond that...