From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 21 13:03:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6D3106566C for ; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5828FC19 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:03:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id 2DD651A3CD5; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 06:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 06:03:46 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Garrett Wollman Message-ID: <20090921130346.GY21946@elvis.mu.org> References: <20090921112657.GW95398@hoeg.nl> <200909211237.n8LCbkxV017364@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200909211237.n8LCbkxV017364@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: ed@80386.nl, arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tmux(1) in base X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:03:46 -0000 * Garrett Wollman [090921 05:39] wrote: > In article <20090921112657.GW95398@hoeg.nl>, Ed Schouten writes: > > >At the DevSummit in Cambridge we briefly discussed including tmux(1) in > >the base system. We recently had window(1) there, but unfortunately > >window(1) was a very limited tool, compared to tools like screen(1) and > >tmux(1). Why tmux(1) and not screen(1)? Well, simple. The first has a > >better license and very active maintenance. > > Can you explain why any such utility needs to be in the base system? > I'm not seeing it. We have enough things in the base that most users > will never use as it is. I think he already explained that it's supposedly much better than window(1) with a kinder license than screen(1). We really ought to ship with a screen(1)-like program. hopefully we can make it screen compat rather than having something people are not familiar with in base. Any chance in getting the author to go to ^A and be more "Screenish" so people don't have to learn a new tool? Honestly, if it's very different, the people will just continue to install/use screen. -- - Alfred Perlstein .- AMA, VMOA #5191, 03 vmax, 92 gs500, 85 ch250 .- FreeBSD committer